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Post by harlesden on Sept 30, 2010 0:29:08 GMT
Daytime routes numbered 1-270 All night routes numbered 285-298 plus the 168 (making the 168 a very early 24-hour route) Trolleybus routes numbered 601-699 plus a few 5-- routes. Lots of A and B suffixes. Wish I had a 1959 tube map to go with my 1959 bus map.
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Post by ruislip on Sept 30, 2010 4:19:16 GMT
It probably has fewer routes than in 1958, owing to the massive six-week long strike that year.
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Post by harlesden on Sept 30, 2010 7:19:24 GMT
My 1985 map shows 299 daytime routes, 10 lettered routes (like E1) and an enlarged Night Bus network of 34 routes, most still oddly numbered so, for example, daytime route 89 (Lewisham-Bexleyheath) and night route N89 (Liverpool St. St./Trafalgar Square-Southall/Uxbridge) were totally different routes. As a youngster (19/20) I would take the N89 most nights from Southall to Tottenham Court Road and then walk to Kings Cross Station to visit my Nigerian girl working in the all night Railbar.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 30, 2010 7:30:15 GMT
............. Night Bus network of 34 routes, most still oddly numbered so, for example, daytime route 89 (Lewisham-Bexleyheath) and night route N89 (Liverpool St. St./Trafalgar Square-Southall/Uxbridge) were totally different routes. The night routes were originally numbered 280-299, and were later renumbered Nxx to make way for more day routes. The numbers bore no relation to the day routes with the same number.
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Post by SE13 on Oct 1, 2010 7:42:24 GMT
There is a 1959 tube map HERE..... Not the same as having in in your hand I'm afraid.
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Post by harlesden on Oct 1, 2010 9:17:57 GMT
Thank you SE13. Strictly diagrammatic with sharp 45 degree curves and 90 degree turns.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 1, 2010 11:43:27 GMT
There were two 1959 dated UndergrounD maps: 359 582Z/500,000 859/2100Z/500,000 The only difference being the printing on the Index side of the red dots to show car parks. The previous 858 map was the last to show the South Acton shuttle. Here is 859: tinyurl.com/3xoskz4 cover tinyurl.com/28yp9c8 map (updated)
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Post by londonstuff on Oct 1, 2010 12:07:31 GMT
That map is amazing! I love the Northern line branches and the east end of the District. The elongated nature of the Circle makes it clearer to see the stations within it. Also didn't realise that Farringdon used to be called Farringdon Square.
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Post by DWS on Oct 1, 2010 12:13:36 GMT
That map is amazing! I love the Northern line branches and the east end of the District. The elongated nature of the Circle makes it clearer to see the stations within it. Also didn't realise that Farringdon used to be called Farringdon Square. Russell Square, not Farringdon Square
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2010 13:02:20 GMT
;D
You've got Aldersgate (Barbican) and a Kingsway suffix for Holborn though. And a nice little arrow at Chicwick Park!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 1, 2010 13:41:43 GMT
ARSENAL HIGHBURY HILL too
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Post by londonstuff on Oct 1, 2010 14:30:08 GMT
That map is amazing! I love the Northern line branches and the east end of the District. The elongated nature of the Circle makes it clearer to see the stations within it. Also didn't realise that Farringdon used to be called Farringdon Square. Russell Square, not Farringdon Square Hahahh! Maybe the map isn't as good as it looks then
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Post by SE13 on Oct 1, 2010 17:27:43 GMT
ARSENAL HIGHBURY HILL too Gillespie Road to Arsenal in the 30's as proposed by one of the finest managers in the history of football, Sir Herbert Chapman. It changed to Arsenal (Highbury Hill) and latterly the bracketed bit was dropped, though I'm not entirely sure who was behind that. Arsenal FC fully funded the changes to the tube maps, in-car diagrams etc when it changed from Gillespie Road, and I think it knocked them back something like £30,000 at the time. Now there were plans to build a new tube station under Ashburton Grove and either replace Arsenal tube, or compliment it, but Finsbury Park took all the cash, and money was needed at Holloway Road as well. As it stands, Arsenal tube will remain named that way forever, and there will be no further developments in that area. The Picc more or less runs underneath Ashburton Grove, and in reality with Arsenal almost clearing the debt from moving grounds, a new station is possible as they would almost fully fund it, but planning permission will for now be totally against it. As for Arsenal tube itself, there are hundreds of thousands of people against the idea of any name change or shutting the station down, even though it's fairly much only ever used on match days.
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Post by suncloud on Oct 3, 2010 16:02:31 GMT
The night routes were originally numbered 280-299, and were later renumbered Nxx to make way for more day routes. The numbers bore no relation to the day routes with the same number. The N5 and N20 (especially) still bear no relation ship to the 5 and 20 day routes respectively despite the trend to 24 hour routes and other reorganisations of night bus routes...
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Post by Chris M on Oct 3, 2010 16:25:37 GMT
A night route along the 20 corridor would be very welcome by pretty much all of the Loughton and Debden residents I know. Even if it didn't go through Debden estate, a service along Rectory Lane would be good. However, there is the small matter of night buses not leaving Greater London to overcome first.
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Post by harlesden on Oct 3, 2010 16:52:49 GMT
N279 reaches Waltham Cross.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 3, 2010 21:58:38 GMT
N5 and N20 are intended to duplicate the Northern Line: presumably those numbers were chosen because they were the first spare ones and, because of the Northern Line, no day routes follow their course closely enough to lend their numbers.
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