What stock is this?

looks like the old TRT, 1960 stock as tubeprune says. Note sure what its future is now theblue and yellow peril has arrived!

This is the one at Northfields which belongs to Cravens Heritage Trains (3906-4927-3907). It is not the TRT - different livery.

TRT is still alive and well - for the moment.

I saw the TRT just last week go through Covent Garden...

right the story is this :- it is alleged that there a crack within the wheel bogie frame and cannot be repaired, however, it is reported that when the other active unit goes into retirement then one bogie will be replaced. i also noticed that over the pasted 6 months that the 1938 t/s middle car and the end has signs of a metal problem and i think its been resolved as it looks like it been repaired and a new door in different red colour has been spotted on the DM car.

Nothing brilliant: it's a Nikon D40 with an 18-200mm wide-angle lens. Really annoying barrel distortion when doing the whole wide-angle thing.

I used the 'loupe' tool in Aperture 3 (Mac OS X) to get the magnification on the shot, which was taken from the footbridge by Boston Manor station.

I used to see two 1960 Stock cars and the two converted Standard Stock trailers parked at Northfields in thr late 1970s.

Reminiscing about the 1960 stock, I grew up in Gants Hill and sometimes when travelling into Central London I'd go the long way round the loop so I could travel in the 1960 stock, or the pre-38 trailers painted silver to match. Many of you will know that some of the trailers had extra end doors added on conversion, whilst others just had two double doors per side.
I think that I may have even managed to travel on a 1967 stock too, as at that time the Hainault Woodford section had been converted to automatic and a four car train of 1967 stock was allocated to Hainault Depot.

No, they were't modified that drastically: "standard" stock was, in fact, anything but standardised, and one of the many differences was that post-1930 trailers had end doors whilst earlier trailers did not.
Four of the 1960 stock trailers were 1927 stock (hampstead line replacement stock) 7454/57/67/69 became 4901/3/5/7, but not in that order, the other eight 7079, 7112/26/44/47/53/65/88 were 1931 (Piccadilly line extension) stock - (see this thread for numbers, Brain Hardy's book for dates)

'"Standard" Tube Stock Part 2' says:
"Two of the 58 Trailers [cars converted to run with 38TS] were modified with additional end single doors during 1957/58 to test the possibility of converting further 1927 trailers intended to run with future 1960 Tube Stock driving motor cars"
And:
"Two of the 1927 trailer conversions [in the 60TS] included the provision of end single doors similar to the two "58 Trailers" on the Bakerloo Line"

So I guess they were done when they were converted to run in the 1960 stock units.


Does anyone know why the plan was to convert more trailers, instead of building new ones? Using standard stock trailers in the prototype units might have made sense, but if more 60TS had been built instead of the 62TS there would have been a serious problem. The trailers would not have lasted as long as the DMs - which being built by Cravens, could have lasted longer than the 62TS did. I'm not sure if enough 38TS trailers would have been available, and even if there would have been, they would still be 20 years older than the DMs.

The TRV was strangely stabled alongside Neasden depot today (mainline side of fence) in the middle of a power off possession with hoards of people working around it (but not on it). Don't know why it wasn't in the depot where is could have been left powered up to keep warm! When does this bow out of service? Thought the new AIT was supposed to be running by now?