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Post by nickf on Apr 12, 2010 17:27:15 GMT
In the main part of this website, under the fascinating Stories from Malcolm, there is reference to the Jack Wood Line:
"All the Box Boy did was to book the inner & outer Circle service plus Hammersmith & City service and in the rush hour the Metropolitan extension service (the Jack Wood line). We kept Moorgate informed of the out of turn running to the City plus where his reverser trains were, informed Baker Street Met on the on the state of running of the Jack Wood line service and also Edgware Road."
Can anyone enlighten me as to the origin of the name 'Jack Wood Line'?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2010 19:19:04 GMT
The Met extension line was Metropolitan & St John's Wood Railway. Could it be reference to that? John Wood -> Jack Wood  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2010 19:22:10 GMT
I remember reading somewhere that there was another eastern branch of the Met, leaving the Aldgate/Barking branches at Moorgate or something like that, before heading northeast towards Hackney other nearby areas. I don't know when it was dismissed or how far out it went though.
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Post by jakehn54 on Apr 12, 2010 19:23:48 GMT
I think if the Met ever ran to Hackney they wouldnt let go of it that easily.
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Post by metman on Apr 12, 2010 20:02:46 GMT
It ran some trains to Richmond via Shephards Bush and over Studland Road Junction.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 12, 2010 20:04:14 GMT
The Northern City Line almost answers that description - it was run by the Met from c1913 to c1940.
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Post by slugabed on Apr 12, 2010 21:41:02 GMT
I remember reading somewhere that there was another eastern branch of the Met, leaving the Aldgate/Barking branches at Moorgate or something like that, before heading northeast towards Hackney other nearby areas. I don't know when it was dismissed or how far out it went though. Might this be the Curve at Liverpool Street? Where did those trains end up? Didn't this link up in some way with the East London services?I suppose some may have run over GE metals toward Hackney. The portal at the Inner Circle end is still visible (though much less so than it was) but I think the other end of the Curve was destroyed when Liverpool Street BR was recently rebuilt. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2010 23:06:18 GMT
Having read the stories from Malcolm ( here) it is clear from the context (Farringdon in the 1950s) that what is being referred to is the Metropolitan & St John's Wood Railway - as extended on to Aylesbury (and beyond...). Fascinating to see how names and expressions last. As regards eastern branches from the Met, AIUI the curve into Liverpool Street GER was only used for regular service for a few months in 1875, until the line to the Met's own Liverpool St station (originally Bishopsgate) was opened, it was then only used for the occasional special until taken out in 1904 - apparently the last was an Aylesbury to Great Yarmouth excursion. It was the wrong side of Liverpool Street to conveniently work through to the East London. The GN&C, although taken over by the Metropolitan Railway, was never integrated into the rest of it operationally. There was also a west to north curve on to the Great Northern Railway at King's Cross, which did not last long and was never used for a regular service. |
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Post by nickf on Apr 13, 2010 13:22:07 GMT
Thanks for all the info.
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Post by tubeprune on Apr 17, 2010 6:54:34 GMT
I worked on the Met for years and I never heard the extension referred to as the "Jack Wood" line. We (the trainmen) always referred to it as "the Wood Line" or "the Extension"
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Post by railtechnician on Apr 17, 2010 10:11:49 GMT
Interesting, the curve at Liverpool Street from the Met to the GER is known to me as the Queen Victoria tunnel and was apparently used for specials carrying the royal train after its closure to normal services. When I began my career with LT one of the first sites I became familiar with was the QV tunnel as it was home to Liverpool Street staff canteen which was in fact a bus canteen and open all night for bus crews serving the station. Back in the 1970s it was used by all sorts, City of London police, Westminster dustmen and street cleaners, even vagrants and was very busy at times in the wee small hours. Of course the canteen disappeared with the redevelopment of Broadgate, the building of the new substation and the emergency exits that take one out to the shopping concourse through a series of passageways and rooms constructed in the old QV tunnel. The canteen area itself being used for a store during the redevelopment and later earmarked first for access to new escalators for CrossRail, via new shafts to be driven down beneath the Met tracks at the west end of the platforms, and then for station UPS switchrooms.
As for the north curve from King's Cross it was apparently intercepted by the bull ring ticket hall during the building of the Victoria line. There was access via York Way to the tunnel which supposedly still led to the other side of the reinforced bull ring wall. I can recall being asked to run a cable to provide auto telephone service to some site huts located in the BR disused goods/sidings area and the route was to be via the old north curve tunnel. Unfortunately it was part flooded when I went to survey the route and the job was subsequently done by someone else so all I saw was the entrance ramp.
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