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Post by angelislington on Dec 31, 2009 16:09:46 GMT
This is a fantastic vid about why the Northern Heights extension was never built. Really, really well done (with some great comedy too - check out the 'Green Belts' letter!). It's cool even if you're not a Northern Line fan 
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Post by metman on Dec 31, 2009 17:34:17 GMT
That was good fun!
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Post by londonstuff on Dec 31, 2009 17:42:57 GMT
It's very good: I sort of thought it was someone's university work, looked like that sort of thing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 17:43:02 GMT
That is something else! The presentation and use of graphics really are awesome and much better than my mobile phone, Windows Movie Maker based vids ;D.....absolutely brilliant and the makers should be well pleased. That was better than most programmes you see on the telly!
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Post by Rich32 on Dec 31, 2009 18:34:55 GMT
Yes, a brilliantly entertaining piece - 'a short, informal, yet informative film.'
Apologies from me, I actually came across this film several days ago, but completely forgot to post about it. Mind you, I'm sure AI would rather take the honours here as it is about her fave line.
I look forward to whatever he does next, if it's really intended to do a whole series as I enjoy London history in general, not just railway related.
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Post by Oracle on Dec 31, 2009 18:48:09 GMT
Being very pedantic, he did not mention that MHE was electrified ostensibly to serve the military depot (which I think had a military post office?). Also, where was the reference to Aldenham Depot that became the Bus Overhall Works and of course British Leyland's service depot? What does it look like now?
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Post by Ben on Jan 1, 2010 21:52:02 GMT
Got pulled down after the deregulation of the buses, think its an industrial/office/business park now. Pity.
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Post by metman on Jan 1, 2010 22:31:40 GMT
There was no mention of the Ally Pali branch!
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Post by superteacher on Jan 1, 2010 22:47:28 GMT
Excellent video!
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Post by Phil on Jan 2, 2010 11:10:38 GMT
Eminently watchable and very high quality.
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Post by angelislington on Jan 3, 2010 19:03:02 GMT
Well, I emailed the guy who made it (the presenter), Jay Foreman. He said this: Yay!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2010 20:33:10 GMT
Great work!
Now I'm waiting for the extended version for tube geeks ;D
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Post by mikebuzz on Jan 13, 2010 23:57:16 GMT
Good video. love it.
Just a couple of nit picks - Bushey Heath station was redesigned after the plans shown in the video. Instead of heading straight for the roundabout it was positioned to the north of it, in order to be extended north-west, perhaps to Watford! He also mentioned 1939 for the Mill Hill East electrification. And no acknowledgements to King Crimson and Donovan. Tut tut!
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Post by abe on Jan 14, 2010 8:45:15 GMT
Excellent stuff - very professionally put together. I'm keen to see their Ringways documentary now.
Two nit-picking comment: the 'tunnel' at the north end of Edgware platforms wasn't built as part of the Northern heights; it was authorized c.1964 to allow a greater margin of safety in case of trains overrunning. And the 1909/1927 shots of 'Edgware' are actually Golders Green.
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Post by Ben on Jan 14, 2010 11:04:02 GMT
An excellent video. The ringways will be a highly interesting topic for them to cover in such a fashion. I hope they do manage to get funding from some company; anything that can be educational and entertaining is worth its weight in gold.
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Post by SE13 on Jan 14, 2010 12:24:19 GMT
Quite how I never spotted this thread earlier is beyond me! That was a most entertaining video and I look forward to seeing further editions. I have actually wondered for ages about why there was the MHE branch that just stops there without going up to Edgware.
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Post by peterc on Jan 14, 2010 15:11:04 GMT
Excellent video, although I think the reason for the MHE electrification was significant as without that the whole branch would probably have been lost.
The mention of closure by Beeching was curious. I don't know if there was any coal traffic to Edgeware after the War but in the early 60s BR still quoted fares to Mill Hill (The Hale) as an Underground destination, for which I spent ages searching on the tube map. I believe that it actually involved through ticketing on a local bus.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 14, 2010 20:22:40 GMT
I don't know if there was any coal traffic to Edgeware after the War but in the early 60s BR still quoted fares to Mill Hill (The Hale) as an Underground destination. I believe that it actually involved through ticketing on a local bus. Closed to freight in 1964 according to Wikipedia. Don't know whether trains actually ran right up to the end, but I recall seeing (somewhere on this site) a picture of a D8200 somewhere on the Northern Heights network. The bus was the 240 (later the 240A when it was split to allow the western part of the route to be double-decked) |
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Post by metman on Jan 14, 2010 22:04:59 GMT
The Mill Hill East section was actually doubled during the War and one line electrified because of the barracks there. This is probably the main reason for MHE stations survival.
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Post by Oracle on Jan 14, 2010 22:23:55 GMT
The reference to the Class 15 BTH is in respect of the photo that I posted taken from UndergrounD issue 10 I think it was on the Northern Heights. issue 9 'The Northern Line Extensions' published in 1981 and edited by me. D8342 was seen shunting at MHE on 12th November 1962. By then only Mill Hill and Edgware goods yards were still open. Edware was apparently the last to close, in early 1964. I wish we could agree to reproduce the content of trhe issue as it might interest some members.
I gathered in the past that the Inglis Barracks in Mill Hill housed what became the British Forces Post Office but what was during the war the Royal Engineers (Postal Service). However I cannot find any evidence that they were there until 1962. Reputedly it was the military postal office that was persuasive in the branch being electrified. It seems that in June 1940 it was decided to electrify one line because of the barracks and trial running began 16th May 1941 with public services starting on the 18th. I wondered whether my late maternal grandfather was involved in the p/way work. He was definitely still working on the Underground at the time.
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I have just noticed that a six-car DMMU Northern Heights railtour reached Edgware LNER on 1st October 1960. I assume that they used two GN Suburban sets as used on the CWL, as they would have had tripcocks fitted?
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