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Post by mrfs42 on Nov 13, 2009 14:30:05 GMT
Paging Oracle - did you put a picture/link up on the Forum relatively recently shewing a goods train at MHE?
The viewpoint was looking towards Edgware with (I think) signal NQX 802 or NV xxx in shot - what I'm really after is a view of the Gasworks sidings at the Mill Hill end.
I've looked in the usual places on the forum plus 'Northern Wastes', 'By Tube beyond Edgware' and 'London's Local Railways' but to no avail.
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Post by SE13 on Nov 13, 2009 15:02:00 GMT
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Post by mrfs42 on Nov 13, 2009 15:08:09 GMT
Sadly no; there is a picture somewhere on the Forum of a view looking from the end of MHE platform towards the ground frame/stop board when the goods line and sidings unlocked by the staff were still in situ.
I know the lengths of the various bits - I'm really after the *width* of the formation.
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Post by Oracle on Nov 13, 2009 16:17:03 GMT
The photo was in an issue of UndergrounD mag, edited by me. I scanned it some time ago and posted it here but I will see if I can find the copy on my PC. The article was about the lines to Edgware via the Northern Heights. The photo had a BTH Type 1 (Class 15) so perhaps a forum search will find it? STOP PRESS: found it on my PC!This is the original version:
www.gmhistorian.btinternet.co.uk/millhill.jpg
And this is an enlarged version:
clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/chevytalk/millhill2.jpg |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2009 17:44:33 GMT
And the photographer was the late John Gillham .....
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Post by Oracle on Nov 13, 2009 22:08:45 GMT
Does anyone recall the MHE-Edgware line being on a TV programme; perhaps NATIONWIDE? I can't recall why they covered it and when but it must have been before the M1 extension was buillt. Wracking my brain to its limit, I think it was suggested that it could have bene a useful line if re-opened.
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Post by mrfs42 on Nov 14, 2009 1:42:03 GMT
<thumbs up>
Thank-you! That is exactly what I was thinking of - much appreciated.
I did try searching for 'Mill Hill East' and 'Clayton' but my search-fu was weak.
Yes, yes JCG of course - I have a copy in my 'other library' of his first map [1] in Wingate Betts' 'Great British Tramway Networks' which used to belong to the late John Slater (ex-Railway Mag.) and who taught me the following Belloc poem when I was a nipper:
A Python I should not advise,--
It needs a doctor for its eyes,
And has the measles yearly.
However, if you feel inclined
To get one (to improve your mind,
And not from fashion merely),
Allow no music near its cage;
And when it flies into a rage
Chastise it, most severely.
I had an aunt in Yucatan
Who bought a Python from a man
And kept it for a pet.
She died, because she never knew
These simple little rules and few;--
The Snake is living yet.
I'm pretty sure Belloc also wrote a poem about the Double Fairlie - however, we have strayed far off-topic - thank-you for digging out the picture, many thanks.
[1] and also - of course - one on the wonderful Yorkshire (Woollen District)!
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Post by ruislip on Nov 14, 2009 3:24:37 GMT
The train in the enlarged version actually looks like a double-decker bus.  |
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Post by SE13 on Nov 14, 2009 7:58:47 GMT
Does anyone recall the MHE-Edgware line being on a TV programme; perhaps NATIONWIDE? I can't recall why they covered it and when but it must have been before the M1 extension was buillt. Wracking my brain to its limit, I think it was suggested that it could have bene a useful line if re-opened. I recall the coverage of the M1 being extended back further into London in the back end of the 70's (as a time line) There used to be a programme on LWT that did all manner of these sort of things, perhaps that was the one you are thinking of. For the life of me, I can't remember what it was called, nor the time, in fact it might have been on Thames before LWT took over on a Friday evening...... |
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Post by Oracle on Nov 14, 2009 8:50:28 GMT
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 14, 2009 10:35:10 GMT
A search for "Clayton" would have been unlikely to have found this as the class usually known as "Clayton"s were the class 17. Although, in fact, some of the class 15s were assembled by Clayton, the main contractor was BTH.
If Wikipedia is to be believed, the Class 15s were allocated at various times to Devons Road (Bow), March, Ipswich, Stratford and Finsbury Park, although some of these allocations were very short-lived. As far as I am aware, Hornsey only ever had one diesel allocated to it - its depot shunter 03179. The former steam depot was re-opened for the GN electrification.
The one in the picture, DB96800x, was one of four converted for train pre-heating duties and allocated to Finsbury Park.
The one shown at MHE was probably an FP resident as well.
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