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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2009 15:19:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2009 15:51:00 GMT
Yep, just watched that on the BBC News. Close call doesn't come into it... She very nearly rolled over, onto the juice rail.  |
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Post by mrfs42 on Nov 10, 2009 16:01:41 GMT
All the more surprising because the juice rail is unprotected top-contact.
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Post by roythebus on Nov 10, 2009 16:26:08 GMT
Almost as hairy as the Indian Railways clip that was doing the rounds with the bloke fried when he climbs on the roof and touches 25kv.
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Post by rincew1nd on Nov 11, 2009 20:40:02 GMT
You can see the driver banging on the windscreen before the train stops. Not nice for her I'd imagine.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2009 16:44:44 GMT
The person at the headwall was truly heroic and I believe the location they picked was instrumental in saving valuable seconds in reaction and braking time. I do however think the adreniline tookover as they are still sticking thier arms out over the platform edge as the train comes in!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2009 16:56:28 GMT
I'm surprised she was not electrocuted!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2009 18:09:09 GMT
As you can see from the video there was no 'suicide pit' present, as we have in London. Does anybody know if these pits were installed at time of construction or were they added a at later date?.
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Post by slugabed on Nov 12, 2009 21:24:57 GMT
I'm certain it depends on date of construction.
Certainly the Victoria Line had them from new,in fact some were (are) extra deep to allow them to be used for train inspection as well.
I think there was a programme of installation from about the '30s on,with all new TUBE stations from then on having them built as new.
Sub-surface and above-ground tube stations don't have them (correct me if I'm wrong......)
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Post by SE13 on Nov 13, 2009 9:25:26 GMT
There are pictures from the war time of the deep level stations being used as shelters with hammocks being strung between the running lines after the juice was switched off, so the pits must have been there in at least 1939.
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Post by mrfs42 on Nov 13, 2009 11:24:21 GMT
I think there was a rolling progtramme from about 1936 onwards - what would clinch the date would be if Southgate was provided with them from new.
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I'm pretty sure when the Bakerloo extension from Finchley Road to Baker Street was built in 1939 they were already established practice (they're certainly not mentioned expressly in TC Supp. 42/39 which is the signalling instruction for the extension) - I'm pretty sure that they were provided on the extension to Morden which would date the idea's inception back to at least 1926.
I think that 'Rails through the Clay' mentions the rolling programe to provide the pits was in force during 1934-5, although the Morden and Cockfosters extensions were provided with them.
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Post by 21146 on Nov 13, 2009 12:17:36 GMT
"Reconstructing London's Underground" says (anti) suicide pits were first provided on the Cockfosters extension in 1932. In 1934, a programme commenced of retro-fitting these to a further 91 platforms.
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Post by mrfs42 on Nov 13, 2009 12:43:45 GMT
Follentfant isn't quite right - I've seen a picture of South Wimbledon at opening somewhere with an anti-suicide pit dated 1926
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Post by 21146 on Nov 13, 2009 14:13:36 GMT
Follentfant isn't quite right - I've seen a picture of South Wimbledon at opening somewhere with an anti-suicide pit dated 1926 The LT Museum online photo library seems to show Colliers Wood in 1926 with a shallower pit than was later the case. A similar view of South Wimbledon appears to depict a deeper pit although the detail is unclear. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2009 17:49:05 GMT
IIRC the pits were added because the increase in suicides becasue of the Great Depression.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2009 18:46:46 GMT
Does the PED stations on the JLE have suicide pits?
I've been in the cab several times in the past, but can't remember seeing them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2009 19:18:38 GMT
Do suicide pits actually work?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2009 19:24:34 GMT
Do suicide pits actually work? I can tell you from experience that they often make the difference between a fatality and a severe injury. There's many cases of people losing limbs instead of their lives due to falling clear of the train. |
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Post by SE13 on Nov 15, 2009 8:22:40 GMT
Moderator hat onPlease keep in mind that one unders is a very touchy subject and in accordance with Rule 7.2 such discussion isn't permitted per se. Hopefully nobody will bring the subject up, so this is merely a timely reminder. Removes hatRob made an interesting point, and that's a story I have heard in that the great depression was a reason. That timelines the late 1920's or early 1930's
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Post by memorex on Nov 15, 2009 14:55:32 GMT
Does the PED stations on the JLE have suicide pits? I've been in the cab several times in the past, but can't remember seeing them. Have just spent the last 6 weeks up and down the line in the cab - I'm almost certain there aren't! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2009 19:30:35 GMT
Does the PED stations on the JLE have suicide pits? I've been in the cab several times in the past, but can't remember seeing them. Have just spent the last 6 weeks up and down the line in the cab - I'm almost certain there aren't! Hmmm.....was thinking there was, I remember episodes from when I was a Waterloo CSA involving dropped phones etc, there seemed to be a little room underneath the rails. Was a while ago now though I must admit...... |
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