Antique Customer Screens gone

Oh great.. I am all for the antique listed stuff, keeping it etc... but they are not really fit for the current day are they?? Would be a shame if they "fell off the lorry" and had to have something more modern installed

I do like them... they look ok. I prefer what they have done at Gloucester Rd WB and they have both... if only the Dot Matrix there displayed more than just the next train, when it is approaching the station

And the Picc is not always quicker.. as I am usually travelling to Ealing Common.. anyway sometimes whilst sat in the usual "queue" approaching Acton WB... a District will overtake

Whilst on that subject I would love to see an arrow or something installed for the punters, to show the first train through Ealing Common. Is you never know and quite often you find a Ealing Bdy and Rayners/Uxbridge in the platforms at the same time... and there is no way of knowing which ones first!

Did he say which March?

Sorry... but where is ECT?

And I too noticed they had dissapeared at Earl's Court... Are they supposed to be temporary or are they not coming back (the old indicators)?

I see no reason why the superb historic boards have to be removed. By all means SUPPLEMENT them with a dot matrix !!!

I presume a dot matix at Earl's Ct is a complexity as the approach junctions means both the order of arrival and the platform of arrival and indeed the order of departure is often not decided until seconds in advance upon the whim of the signaller !

Where is this dot matrix that shows the next 5 trains ?? I haven't seen one ! WPK ? Wimbledon Park ? ... oh perhaps you mean Wembley Park ?

Yeah Wembley Park aspect. I think a few other stations too on the Jub maybe other lines as well.

I think they MUST sort a Dot Matrix solution at ECT District. In this day and age we need to know roughly how long we will be waiting. I know it may be tricky.. but I am sure not impossible. All they have to do is read to say Padd on the ERD branch and upto say Embankment on the main branch and display the times on the screen.. not necessarily the platform number.

Surely it is fairly "simple" to wire up a DMI o the same coircuit as the existing kit? At Edgware Road (SSR) the DMI only show the train when the iner home signal has been cleared.

Aet do you know if Metronet SSL will be replacing their Programme Machines with computers and Train Following System like what Tube Lines are doing? Or will there be all this new kit plus the old numbers too

I can't see any point in a dot matrix that simply repeats the superb arrows (the one at Gloucester Road is pointless ...and when is the arrow for "Ealing Broadway" at that location going to be repaired !)

Perhaps a large hung screen showing trackernet for the area would be useful ? It wouldn't predict the order of arrival or platform or time, but it would show where the next train to a specific destination was

Perhaps, at least, such screens should be available for staff use in the accom on the westbound, and suitably placed on the eastbound ?

At one time I heard it was planned to fit trackernet large flat screen displays in the ticket halls of all the district suburban stations !

Sorry Aspect, but thats the daftest suggestion I've seen on this forum! ;D ;D

Can you imagine the punters armed with that sort of information?

Anyway, as JTD's says, it's not that reliable - did you know tracknet mainly works by using the position of train stops? (have a look when a train arrives at Plaistow eastbound [for example] - the west end shunt* will clear!

I have to agree with the train of thought (pardon the pun) that there is no realistic way of improving the information that can be displayed to joe public on the platforms at the present time. The current signalling set up, coupled with the approaching junctions simply mean it's an impossible task.

Resignalling is the key - it's only then that the opportunity can be taken to make better & more relevant information available. That said, and given the approaching layouts, I still think the punters will be left wanting...............even more so if the seemingly now dropped plans for the extra points at each end ever do come to fruition.

*= it shows on trackernet as a shunt, but as we all know, it's actually a colour light signal

the programme machines for the district are not getting replaced anytime soon we got told a year ago they gotto last for another 10 years yet atleast and now after for some time we gotto be doing maintenance on them again as they havent been maintained for years (why you think they burn out so quickly ) so dont expect anything soon we know tubelines are replacing them as they started the northern line a few years ago and still havent finished yet but they are getting there

trackernet is ok as a guide but nothing else its usually wrong and some sites do not show correctly how the signalling is worked also there is abit of a delay in it at times