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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2009 22:25:57 GMT
Anyone have any ideas when the first S Stock is being dragged by GBRf down to Neasden?
Any Ideas?
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Post by metman on Aug 17, 2009 22:43:53 GMT
May?
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Post by prjb on Aug 18, 2009 23:00:01 GMT
Yes. The current date is in October. I would rather not give out the exact date and timings publically and also the delivery may slip slightly depending on all sorts of factors. I attend the delivery meetings with the test train bod's and have all the relevant details. Staff members of the forum can PM me if they wish nearer the time for more exact details.
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Post by prjb on Aug 18, 2009 23:01:40 GMT
May is the current planned date for train 3 to enter passenger service, but again this may slip. Subject to change, the dates currently are: Train 2 = October. Train 1 = January. Train 3 = March. |
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Post by citysig on Aug 19, 2009 15:19:18 GMT
Yes. The current date is in October. I would rather not give out the exact date and timings publically and also the delivery may slip slightly depending on all sorts of factors. I attend the delivery meetings with the test train bod's and have all the relevant details. Staff members of the forum can PM me if they wish nearer the time for more exact details. As long as we get the timetable notice, and are kept informed in the way we should be, then that should be enough. I'll be in touch if this doesn't occur (as if they would leave us in the Mushroom Factory out of the loop  ;D ) |
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Post by prjb on Aug 19, 2009 21:27:59 GMT
Yes. The current date is in October. I would rather not give out the exact date and timings publically and also the delivery may slip slightly depending on all sorts of factors. I attend the delivery meetings with the test train bod's and have all the relevant details. Staff members of the forum can PM me if they wish nearer the time for more exact details. As long as we get the timetable notice, and are kept informed in the way we should be, then that should be enough. I'll be in touch if this doesn't occur (as if they would leave us in the Mushroom Factory out of the loop ;D ) Feel free to get in touch if you need to mate, you can PM me or just contact me directly.  |
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Post by neasdena60 on Aug 20, 2009 19:04:56 GMT
In November train two will arrive, and will be parked up on 29n, the road given over to s stock.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2009 20:21:16 GMT
prjb, are you aware of the unions asking for opening droplights in the cabs, and if so what is your opinion?
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Post by prjb on Aug 20, 2009 22:11:58 GMT
In November train two will arrive, and will be parked up on 29n, the road given over to s stock. November is not in the current plan, if you look above you will see in my earlier post what the current appoximate delivery dates are. |
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Post by prjb on Aug 20, 2009 22:25:23 GMT
prjb, are you aware of the unions asking for opening droplights in the cabs, and if so what is your opinion? Am I aware of the unions position on droplights? Yes!  This one single issue has taken up more of my time than any other single issue in the entire train design. There is at least one thread on here that is dominated by the subject too. As for my opinion, it is irrelevant as we referred the subject to director level. What I will say is that as the User Acceptance Manager (the person who will sign it off as being operationally fit for purpose) I am satified that this area of the design is satisfactory and that we have suitable mitigations in order to justify the end position that the directors have decided upon. Wow, I just managed to break one of the primary rules that I applied to myself when I joined this site - I fell into management speak!  Look, ultimately the cab has air con and the facility to have non conditioned filtered air coming in as an alternative. An opening cab window will (like it or not) increase pollution, increase noise levels, and reduce safety (we just fitted extra spooling to cab side windows on 'D' Stock at the request of drivers to prevent the risk of injury from missile strikes on the Upminster road). I really ( genuinely) do not want to enter another lengthy debate on this one, the cab is the biggest and best cab we have ever had on LU (I will stand by that statement) and I think within a short time of operating them the vast majority of drivers will not even be thinking about an opening cab window. The last fleet we had built with opening cab windows was in 1972! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2009 2:53:16 GMT
I really ( genuinely) do not want to enter another lengthy debate on this one Fair enough, I was only enquiring as I have just recieved an email from my rep on it and was unaware of any campaign previously. I am a fan of air con and have it on in preference to an open door as I posted elsewhere on here. |
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Post by neasdena60 on Aug 21, 2009 16:14:06 GMT
In November train two will arrive, and will be parked up on 29n, the road given over to s stock. November is not in the current plan, if you look above you will see in my earlier post what the current appoximate delivery dates are. The train will arrive in november. your dates are OLD. |
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Post by prjb on Aug 21, 2009 20:08:33 GMT
November is not in the current plan, if you look above you will see in my earlier post what the current appoximate delivery dates are. The train will arrive in november. your dates are OLD. I really dont mean to be rude but as the User Acceptance Manager for the train, as the Operating Official responsible for joining the train and escorting it accross LU metals into Neasden, and also as the person who met with the Test Train Manager this week to discuss arrangements and agree the dates and times of the paths we were going to book I think I know when the train is due and currently is not November. I don't know where you are getting your information from but wherever it is coming from it is wrong. We are not even booking paths for November. Train 2 is due in to Neasden in October, Train 1 is due in to Neasden in January, and Train 3 is due in to Neasden in March. These are the dates that the project team are working to (as I said previously I will not give out publically the exact dates but the paths have now been booked for Train 2) and it is the project team who determine when the train leaves Old Dalby. There may well be some slippage but right now we are not looking at November as a date for delivery. |
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Post by prjb on Aug 21, 2009 20:12:00 GMT
I really ( genuinely) do not want to enter another lengthy debate on this one Fair enough, I was only enquiring as I have just recieved an email from my rep on it and was unaware of any campaign previously. I am a fan of air con and have it on in preference to an open door as I posted elsewhere on here. No, it's fine mate. Can you feel my pain on this one?!!  |
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Post by Ben on Aug 21, 2009 20:50:07 GMT
So whats the routing it'll follow down, prjb? Its coming by rail right?
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Post by citysig on Aug 21, 2009 22:17:22 GMT
I don't know where you are getting your information from but wherever it is coming from it is wrong. Probably from the same rumour pot where loads of stuff came from before. It's a beast, you know that ;D |
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Post by prjb on Aug 22, 2009 18:41:13 GMT
That rumour mill is working at full stretch at the moment. My favourite one was that we had crashed two 'S' Stock together on the test track, the fact that there are only two built and one is at Derby whilst the other is at Old Dalby is neither here nor there of course!! At the end of the day, all I am saying is that the current plan is for Train 2 to come down on the date I have given. There could be a delay but currently the path(s) we have booked do not include November.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2010 11:40:19 GMT
There was a move pencilled in for January 14th from Old Dalby to Amersham but this was caped. As mentioned in the other thread, 20901/905/142 are booked to run light from Barrow Hill to Amersham next week so there might be another move on the horizon. Or, this could be due to the fact that they are having a "clear out" at Barrow Hill and half the locos on site need to go as they're taking up valuable space.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2010 22:01:35 GMT
I will add that I've received info today that the next S-stock move from Old Dalby to Amersham is booked for 10th March. Class 20's again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2010 17:08:07 GMT
For anyone interested, 20142 & 189 are now at March (near Peterborough), having run down from Barrow Hill yesterday. Should head to Old Dalby on Wednesday morning with the barrier vehicles to work the S-stock move to Amersham.
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Post by 100andthirty on Mar 13, 2010 18:45:35 GMT
As I passed thro' Peterboro' yesterday going south at about 3:45pm we were overtaken by two class 20s!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2010 23:18:13 GMT
Yeah, that was 20142 & 189 as mentioned above... Unfortunately Wednesday's move is now cancelled. Allegedly GBRf want to acquire some 20s from DRS and re-brand them for use on general workings out of Wellingborough Yard (this would presumably include using them on the S-stock moves). |
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Post by singaporesam on Mar 14, 2010 1:27:02 GMT
That rumour mill is working at full stretch at the moment. My favourite one was that we had crashed two 'S' Stock together on the test track, the fact that there are only two built and one is at Derby whilst the other is at Old Dalby is neither here nor there of course!! At the end of the day, all I am saying is that the current plan is for Train 2 to come down on the date I have given. There could be a delay but currently the path(s) we have booked do not include November. You don't need two of them to have a crash .... look what happened to the 95TS..... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2010 23:18:30 GMT
GBRf are apparently hiring a small fleet of class 20s from DRS to remove the redundant units from LUL property which will be moved by rail to Booths Scrapyard in Rotherham.
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Post by metman on Mar 15, 2010 8:05:48 GMT
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Post by prjb on Mar 16, 2010 22:45:13 GMT
There are a number of paths booked over the coming few weeks but this doesn't necessarily mean that Train 1 is going to utilise any of them. We book the paths in order to secure the required routes but may or may not utilise them. So don't go camping out or booking hotel rooms on our account!  |
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Post by prjb on Mar 16, 2010 22:48:43 GMT
*just spits out toast* They will be around for a little while yet, and when that fateful day comes we will give them a fitting and proper send off (Detonators and all!). I am also certain that some units will live on elsewhere. Keep Calm and Carry On!! |
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Post by metman on Mar 16, 2010 23:33:40 GMT
They better!
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Post by edm on Mar 24, 2010 19:32:05 GMT
GBRf are apparently hiring a small fleet of class 20s from DRS to remove the redundant units from LUL property which will be moved by rail to Booths Scrapyard in Rotherham. Not correct. The first five units of 1967 stock will go to Booths by road. There is a chance that GBRf may move the next ten, subject to NR giving gauge clearance - but not to Booths. Also (and apologies if this is merely repeating a 'known known'), I understand the next S Stock delivery has been postponed until an "unspecified date" in April. Veering slightly off topic... GBRf do plan to base a small fleet of 20s at Wellingborough, but as yet there is no indication DRS examples will be used. Please do not repost any of the above (that includes you, Mr Wheeler ;-b ) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2010 17:29:15 GMT
Blimey, you've blown my cover! ;-)
Seriously - I was told in good faith that *most* would be going by rail for scrapping, but I guess these things change. On a related note, there's a 0Z22 Barrow Hill SD to Peterborough GBRf and then a 0Z24 Peterborough GBRf to Wellingborough tomorrow, this is thought to be 20s (901/905 from Barrow Hill to pick up 142/189 currently residing at Peterborough?)
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Look, ultimately the cab has air con and the facility to have non conditioned filtered air coming in as an alternative. An opening cab window will (like it or not) increase pollution, increase noise levels, and reduce safety (we just fitted extra spooling to cab side windows on 'D' Stock at the request of drivers to prevent the risk of injury from missile strikes on the Upminster road). I really (genuinely) do not want to enter another lengthy debate on this one, the cab is the biggest and best cab we have ever had on LU (I will stand by that statement) and I think within a short time of operating them the vast majority of drivers will not even be thinking about an opening cab window. The last fleet we had built with opening cab windows was in 1972!
