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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2009 9:51:51 GMT
Just wondering, what is going to happen tonight with regard to transporting the fans? With no tube, the British Transport Police have asked Wembley Stadium station on the line out of Marylebone to be shut from noon. That would mean everyone having to use LOROL services to either Wembley Central or North Wembley. So how do they intend to keep the fans apart if they only have two stations available?
Given this predicament, it is highly irresponsible of both FIFA and the FA to allow the match to continue with fans attending. Would it not be safer to hold the match "behind closed doors" as was originally planned?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2009 9:53:27 GMT
Lets hope the FA can sue the RMT.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2009 10:23:20 GMT
Lets hope the FA can sue the RMT. No chance. Anyway, they'd get............................FA ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2009 10:58:34 GMT
The vast majority of the "extra buses" being layed on today as quoted by TfL officials are in fact providing extras tonight, limited stop, over route 18 between Wembley and Baker Street / Euston. However that that is what they are doing seems not to have been advertised, presumably to avoid excess demand.
In any event The Metropolitan Line is running Wembley Park - Baker Street and the Jubilee Line is running too.
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Post by pakenhamtrain on Jun 10, 2009 11:01:00 GMT
I heard on 5 Live this morning that Overground trains would not be stopping at Wembley Central or North Wembley after about 1800.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2009 11:04:50 GMT
I heard on 5 Live this morning that Overground trains would not be stopping at Wembley Central or North Wembley after about 1800. Nor will Southern. Plus Chiltern will not stop at Wembley Stadium all afternoon and evening (at least thats what's reported)
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Post by pakenhamtrain on Jun 10, 2009 11:27:02 GMT
Chiltern would not stop Midday onwards from what I heard.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2009 11:32:57 GMT
That is correct. Chiltern Railways trains will not stop at Wembley Stadium after 1200 noon till the beginning of service tomorrow. Reasons are mostly to do with safety and the fact that we do not have the resources to be able to carry so many passengers safely.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2009 13:57:59 GMT
I heard on 5 Live this morning that Overground trains would not be stopping at Wembley Central or North Wembley after about 1800. Nor will Southern. Plus Chiltern will not stop at Wembley Stadium all afternoon and evening (at least thats what's reported) It would appear there are going to be very few supporters actually at the game, because they will either not bother or they will be stuck in traffic.
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Post by miztert on Jun 10, 2009 16:06:27 GMT
Add Stonebridge Park to the list - this is from the relevant National Rail disruptions page: Of course that doesn't stop anyone walking to Wembley stadium from South Kenton or Harlesden stations. LO trains going in both directions will no doubt be much busier than normal, but obviously leaving Euston northbound they'll be heaving.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2009 18:37:58 GMT
I would have thought the Met & JLE would cope reasonably well with a reduced crowd , remember also Chiltern and the Watford - Euston DC would have been lifting the Met main load for much of the day (people migrating across e.g Pinner - Hatch End etc) ,
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Post by miztert on Jun 10, 2009 19:07:26 GMT
I would have thought the Met & JLE would cope reasonably well with a reduced crowd , remember also Chiltern and the Watford - Euston DC would have been lifting the Met main load for much of the day (people migrating across e.g Pinner - Hatch End etc) , The point is the crowd would not be so reduced were people to think they could get there by public transport... which could then easily lead to the services that are available becoming critically overloaded. A kind of catch 22 situation. Also, nobody could offer any guarantees as to what level of service the Met and Jubbly lines would offer during the strike. FWIW there are apparently severe delays on the DC line service due to overcrowding.
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Post by metman on Jun 10, 2009 19:25:02 GMT
I'm watching the game on TV. There doesn't seem to be a bad crowd there either! Rooney just scored btw!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 10, 2009 21:09:41 GMT
Interesting on the TfL "live travel news":
"Bakerloo line The Bakerloo line is suspended until 2230 when a special service will operate between Wembley Central and central London for return football traffic only."
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Post by metman on Jun 10, 2009 21:31:56 GMT
Oww, what's this about? Bet that will be really busy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2009 0:30:21 GMT
Given this predicament, it is highly irresponsible of both FIFA and the FA to allow the match to continue with fans attending. Would it not be safer to hold the match "behind closed doors" as was originally planned? Behind closed doors was never ever going to happen, the FA would never recover from the anger of fans. Only 13,000 people didn't make it out of 70,000 tickets sold so the impact of any strike was overstated. I just get the bus but left an hour earlier than normal, traffic was very heavy for the time of day. After the game both the Met and Bakerloo ran special services to Central London, and my journey back was no more rubbishy than it usually is on the bus. The transport 'problems' at Wembley are blown out of proportion, people cram on to the Met and Bakerloo whilst the Chiltern route is nowhere near as packed. If you take your time on the way there and back there are no problems, unless you take the 83 which is always bad!
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