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Post by uzairjubilee on May 25, 2009 12:21:03 GMT
Hi all.
All of us who travel on the Victoria Line know that the announcements arent great.
I was wondering whether the announcements will be re-recorded before the introduction of the 2009 stock.
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Post by Phil on May 25, 2009 16:02:51 GMT
Not worth it at this late stage, is it?? Just like CSDE, too late to change existing stock
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2009 18:42:35 GMT
I thought from your title that you were making some kind of announcement about the TS09 stock!
Is there a delay in their production? I thought they were meant to be testing during service hours by now....
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Post by Chris M on May 25, 2009 19:21:03 GMT
I took the question to be not "Will there be new announcements on the 1967 stock?" but "Will the 2009 stock have different announcements to the 1967 stock?"
I don't know the answer to this though :/
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2009 19:30:45 GMT
I'd have said the content of the 1967 stock announcements is rather good ! (unless it has changed in the last few years!)
However the Victoria Line is rather nosiy and it is difficult to hear the the announcements made whilst the train is in motion.
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Post by uzairjubilee on May 25, 2009 19:32:15 GMT
Sorry on the title of the thread.
I will change it
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2009 11:33:25 GMT
Most of the announcements seem ok to me too, unless there is a major requirement for additions to be made I would have said no and they will just make the necessary changes for the new stock. One of the major problems as is already stated is that the track noise is considerably higher than on some lines, even though they had taken steps to try and reduce this when the line was built. Another problem is the audio volume boost system which is fitted to the units, it seems to fight against even its own speaker volume noise and then adds ambient noise to it, causing the speakers to scream at you at a total incomprehensable level and because of this, causes distortion of any audible messages which may wish to be heard. The flip side of the coin is that it will turn the volume right down and make it so that it is hardly audible at all!
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Post by Chris M on May 26, 2009 13:04:35 GMT
This has possibly been answer before somewhere else, but will the 09 stock be quieter in terms of track noise?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2009 14:24:21 GMT
This has possibly been answer before somewhere else, but will the 09 stock be quieter in terms of track noise? I hope so. |
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Post by astock5000 on May 26, 2009 18:01:32 GMT
I'd have said the content of the 1967 stock announcements is rather good ! The content of the announcements are ok, but the voice isn't as good compared to some other lines, like the Piccadilly (although the Vic DVA is still much better than the DLR's). |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2009 19:13:49 GMT
I'd have said the content of the 1967 stock announcements is rather good ! The content of the announcements are ok, but the voice isn't as good compared to some other lines, like the Piccadilly (although the Vic DVA is still much better than the DLR's). Ah, a fellow Julie Berry fan  Thing I don't understand is, I thought Emma Clarke wasn't going to be used for recording the DVAs anymore because of the spoof announcements she released. But there have been additions to the Emma DVAs on the tube since then... |
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Post by Alight on May 26, 2009 22:15:55 GMT
I made an announcement about this in a related thread a while back; but I'll let you off as I as I am too tired to search for it!  Okay, I wrote about this to TFL, and the recording for the DVA was in January. They didn't explicitly say who the voice over artist was, but they said that the chosen artist was the one most appropriate to blend into existing tones, as that was their specification in this specific case. I'm guessing what they mean by that is they will keep Emma Clarke's announcements, but any new ones to be added such as the new service update ones, will be recorded by a voice over artist who is similar sounding because Emma Clarke is no longer used. I have to admit, unlike the Bakerloo Line, I've had absolutely no problem in hearing the 1967's DVA in the past year; they have been enhanced so they are much louder now and easier to hear. Overall the 1967 stock's DVA is not bad at all, especially since each message has an individual feel to it since the line is so short - it isn't a robotic or disjointed system. Yep I am a Julie Berry fan too! |
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Post by uzairjubilee on May 26, 2009 22:47:10 GMT
Lol I have to say that everytime I have been on the Bakerloo and Victoria Lines, all I can here are mumbles.
There really is a lot of noise from the 1967 stock, which also affects the announcements, so I do hope that the 2009 stock are quiet.
Does anybody know who does this announcement on the District Line "Customers for Blackfriars......."
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Post by Chris M on May 27, 2009 8:02:14 GMT
Overall the 1967 stock's DVA is not bad at all, especially since each message has an individual feel to it since the line is so short - it isn't a robotic or disjointed system. I disagree that it's robotic - every single train announces at certain points (Euston sb being one) to "take your litter with you", and at other times to "move right down inside the car" - even at extreme off peak when there are barely 10 people per car. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2009 10:07:05 GMT
The move right down inside the car message has to be played by the t/op. This is used alot at oxo even when its off peak! most people for some reason want to CRAM into the front car even when the rest are empty. When they do cram in they only stay at the door ways which is so stupid!! lol the isles are empty but they would rather squash in, lol. if Im right there will be new announcements such as the one we make when the train is stopped at a signal etc, as the announcements need to be on the scrolling screen also so that people who are hard of hearing can read what is being said so they are not being discriminated against, lol.
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Post by Colin on May 27, 2009 10:16:35 GMT
if Im right there will be new announcements such as the one we make when the train is stopped at a signal etc, as the announcements need to be on the scrolling screen also so that people who are hard of hearing can read what is being said so they are not being discriminated against, lol. That is interesting - we already have this on the D stocks, but we've now been instructed to stop using the facility as it is not being counted in the MSS scores!! |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2009 10:22:28 GMT
Does anybody know who does this announcement on the District Line "Customers for Blackfriars......." It definitely sounds like Emma to me, hence my confusion. Maybe they found someone who can imitate her |
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Post by happybunny on May 27, 2009 12:53:16 GMT
if Im right there will be new announcements such as the one we make when the train is stopped at a signal etc, as the announcements need to be on the scrolling screen also so that people who are hard of hearing can read what is being said so they are not being discriminated against, lol. That is interesting - we already have this on the D stocks, but we've now been instructed to stop using the facility as it is not being counted in the MSS scores!! Wonder how many T/Ops take notice of that instruction |
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Post by Alight on May 27, 2009 14:29:07 GMT
Overall the 1967 stock's DVA is not bad at all, especially since each message has an individual feel to it since the line is so short - it isn't a robotic or disjointed system. I disagree that it's robotic - every single train announces at certain points (Euston sb being one) to "take your litter with you", and at other times to "move right down inside the car" - even at extreme off peak when there are barely 10 people per car. I sort of understand where you are coming from; it is quite repetitive and the litter announcements are cringemaking (I have written to LU about this, and they said they are reviewing it). However I feel the recordings themselves are quite natural. Compare Oxford Circus's announcement on the Victoria with the Central; the latter has a far more robotic feel due to the system. |
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Post by 100andthirty on May 27, 2009 17:38:21 GMT
If you want really cringe making announcements you should listen for the impossibly jolly woman announcing strikes on the Victoria line. It really does rub salt into the wound!
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Post by uzairjubilee on May 27, 2009 19:44:34 GMT
Emma Clarke on the Viccy just sounds as if she has a bad cold to me!
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Post by mcmaddog on May 28, 2009 15:25:06 GMT
More like she's whispering. I think the Northern is easily the best in terms of clarity. Point taken however that the range of messages is a bit limited on that line.
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Post by Alight on May 28, 2009 18:26:08 GMT
Due to the limited memory.
I have to say the Northern Line is the only one in which I witness people actually taking notice of the DVA, getting up off their seats to leave the train when 'the next station' announcement is played - no doubt due to it being read out at a suitable time.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2009 23:18:50 GMT
Due to the limited memory. I have to say the Northern Line is the only one in which I witness people actually taking notice of the DVA, getting up off their seats to leave the train when 'the next station' announcement is played - no doubt due to it being read out at a suitable time. According to the 1995 stock handbook, the DVA is meant to sound 6 seconds before a station at line speed, this means that the rear car get theirs about 15 seconds before that car pulls into the platform. Either way, the timing on these is about spot on. The Central ones do that at a good time too. As for volume, I find the Vic ones ok, as mentioned the Bakerloo ones can be really awful, almost not worth having a DVA as it is so quiet. The bit on the Vic that I find naff is where the 'Step Free Access' has been slotted in........it soesn't sound very good. |
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Post by maxtube on Jun 7, 2009 7:39:53 GMT
The Northern one gets noticed because it's flippin loud!
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Post by edwin on Jun 7, 2009 18:36:30 GMT
It would be more effective if it said "this station is" instead of "the next station is" as it will indicate that the train is practically in the station, urging passengers to get ready to get off.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2009 11:56:55 GMT
or "Currently approaching Westminster, which is where you exit for the Jubilee line" (or eventually the boring "change here for jubbly lines")
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