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Post by astock5000 on May 3, 2009 17:12:14 GMT
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Post by ruislip on May 3, 2009 23:39:56 GMT
What is written over the doors? |
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Post by astock5000 on May 3, 2009 23:42:09 GMT
It says:
Caution
Step down into train
(The ELL had higher platforms than other lines that used tube stock).
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2009 7:22:14 GMT
What is the oval object on the roof between the cab and the first door?
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Post by metman on May 4, 2009 9:12:11 GMT
Door fault light? Only the EHO received them.
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Post by astock5000 on May 4, 2009 10:24:55 GMT
Door fault light? Only the EHO received them. I've now changed the drawings so only the EHO one has it. (Why do the EFE models have that? They haven't even done an EHO model yet). |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2009 10:47:31 GMT
I suppose EFE were working off photos or drawings of the EHO stock, and did not realise that door lights were not on the stock as built.
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 4, 2009 11:36:21 GMT
This is one of EFEs (and indeed other model companies) failings, both in their bus and train modelling.
They measure up, using either drawings or measurements of an existing vehicle, then produce a model of that type of vehicle in a very different period in their life.
The usual result is a model with modern modifications depicted in a much earlier livery.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2009 6:37:31 GMT
I remember the ends of 38 stock (apart from the cab ends) had a rubber button about 3" diameter on each side roughly at cantrail level. I wondered for years what they were for.
Then a train was terminated at Finchley Central. Before it pulled into the reversing siding, the guard went through each car to check that the passengers had tipped themselves out, then pressed that button. It closed the doors on that car only, so that a passenger for MHE could not come hurtling down the stairs and onto the train.
For some time, I tried to think of a way of pressing one of those buttons on a train in service, without being noticed, but it was too difficult.
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Post by roythebus on May 6, 2009 6:42:51 GMT
I used to have a set of official LT drawings for the 38TS, and even these had inaccuracies compared to the way they were actually built!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2009 11:35:39 GMT
In his classic work on GWR locomotives, H. Holcroft recalled that one of his early tasks at Swindon was to examine various of the GWR "Singles" and note the differences between "as drawn" and "as built". Apparently the fitters in the workshops thought they knew more about practical steam locos than did the people in the drawing office.
Maybe the staff at Metro-Cammell felt much the same.
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Post by ruislip on May 7, 2009 5:02:42 GMT
I remember the ends of 38 stock (apart from the cab ends) had a rubber button about 3" diameter on each side roughly at cantrail level. I wondered for years what they were for. Then a train was terminated at Finchley Central. Before it pulled into the reversing siding, the guard went through each car to check that the passengers had tipped themselves out, then pressed that button. It closed the doors on that car only, so that a passenger for MHE could not come hurtling down the stairs and onto the train. For some time, I tried to think of a way of pressing one of those buttons on a train in service, without being noticed, but it was too difficult. When the guard finished doing this, did he join the motorman in the front cab; or did he return to the rear car? I remember seeing this done with the 59s many times @ Rayners Lane. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2009 5:48:24 GMT
I remember the ends of 38 stock (apart from the cab ends) had a rubber button about 3" diameter on each side roughly at cantrail level. I wondered for years what they were for. Then a train was terminated at Finchley Central. Before it pulled into the reversing siding, the guard went through each car to check that the passengers had tipped themselves out, then pressed that button. It closed the doors on that car only, so that a passenger for MHE could not come hurtling down the stairs and onto the train. For some time, I tried to think of a way of pressing one of those buttons on a train in service, without being noticed, but it was too difficult. When the guard finished doing this, did he join the motorman in the front cab; or did he return to the rear car? I remember seeing this done with the 59s many times @ Rayners Lane. He started from the front and worked back. Presumably, he would have disabled his control panel before leaving the train, so that no evil-minded schoolboy (such as myself) could fiddle with it. When he got to the last car, he went in the guard's door, closed the last car's doors from his panel, and the train moved off. This would have been the only time I saw a tube train turned short of a normal terminus, and the only time I saw Finchley Central as a destination. |
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Post by astock5000 on Dec 29, 2009 16:37:40 GMT
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Post by metman on Dec 29, 2009 19:01:28 GMT
Great work. You should do a 1949 UNDM and a converted 1927 (58) trailer!  |
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Post by astock5000 on Dec 29, 2009 19:20:15 GMT
Great work. You should do a 1949 UNDM and a converted 1927 (58) trailer! I might do those eventually, but I'm not sure what the differences were between 38TS and 49TS. I will only do trailers / NDMs etc. for stock that did not have any DMs, or some if trailers were different than others. If I do drawings of 'standard' stock, I will do trailers and control trailers as well as DMs as there were a lot of differences between batches, but I won't do those yet because there are some Overground drawings I need to finish. |
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Post by Oracle on Dec 30, 2009 10:33:00 GMT
The 'Sunshine Car' 10306 is the only car number I have ever remembered! It was in a train parked for some time at Northfields Depot, east end, on the road nearest the WB Picc and I used to pass it all the time when going to work in central London.
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