neilw
now that's what I call a garden railway
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Post by neilw on May 3, 2009 15:25:28 GMT
Some help please to assist with the restoration of my 62 TS DM:
I need to repaint the roof, but I am not sure how shiny it should be. As built I seem to remember shiny black, then later more of a matt finish slapped on showing brush marks, more like an under-seal. The roofs of these cars were always a bit of a problem, and, yes, the joints do leak very slightly, so this may have been why. Any advice?
Similarly with the solebar and bogies, etc, should these be matt or gloss?
I seem to recall someone on here had the colour spec for the shoebeam blue/grey, anyone know please?
Finally, the bodywork needs a wash. When in service the units were washed (weekly I think) with acid in the "acid sheds". What was the acid and what was the concentration? (I didn't want to experiment and dissolve my pride and joy!)
All help greatly appreciated
cheers
Neil
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Post by 100andthirty on May 3, 2009 17:31:29 GMT
I'll help where I can.
In my time - '69 on - solebars were gloss black, roofs that horrible underseal like stuff you mention, bogies were not paintend at all - but if you want to go back to original, gloss black would be right.
the cleaner that used to be used was Aloclene. Given that most good cleaners got neutered by 'ealth and Safety, it's probably not available. It needed to be a detergent - to remove grime - and slightly acidic to remove oxide from the metal. The acid base was weak phosphoric acid. It was often said that Diet Coke would be a good substitute but that's probably a myth!
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slugabed
Zu lang am schnuller.
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Post by slugabed on May 3, 2009 20:51:28 GMT
A few remarks from what I've learned restoring motorbikes......Yes,Coke DOES contain phosphoric acid,and it was recommended for un-seizing two-stroke engines:Pour down the spark-plug hole,leave a week,then dismantle and clean throughly.I wouldn't use it as a cleaner,though,and in practice I used Plus-gas or diesel oil for freeing rusted parts.
I don't know much about metallurgy,but aluminium of simlar age on my BSAs (late 50s-early 60s) was cleaned a treat using Polycell brush cleaner (Polyclens?) applied using a stiff brush,followed by a thorough rinse with lots of cold water (this may not do your lawn much good).
Also,you'll need rather a lot to do a whole tube car.....
Whatever you do,try it on a little bit first,which is not visible,and see how it goes.
And WHATEVER YOU DO don't use ANYTHING caustic,or soda-based as this EATS ALUMINIUM!!
Please check the label,as many cleaners are caustic.
I speak from experience.
Good luck!
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Post by alrispoli on Jun 17, 2009 16:33:46 GMT
A question to the guy questioning the guys about 62ts.... Can you put some photos up on the web of this vehicle?
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Post by elo10538 on Sept 10, 2009 12:52:35 GMT
I realize this is months after the original post but having had the same problem to establish the correct or nearest best colour for the 62TS roof and having some very good advice form very reliable sources the best undercoat to use would be a black quick drying brushing enamel with a top coat of black eggshell 60% gloss brushing enamel. Having cleaned off graffiti countless times from the bodyside of 62TS I hope your car(s) are graffiti free but a good solvent for this has been Nitromors gel paint-stripper. This can be cleaned off with white spirit and leaves a reasonable surface.
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