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Post by ghostofjk on Feb 18, 2009 20:40:37 GMT
Going into Acton Town from Ealing Common this evening, I noticed what looked like either a 67 or 72 stock train on the sidings (the Alps?) used for stock being tranferred in or out by road. Is this the new track-recording train, being delivered from Doncaster, or something else entirely? It was getting dim, so hard to tell... I remember seeing two carriages of the 72 unit from the mainline when I was going through Doncaster last summer... On the 72TS TRT, how long is that expected to be in use? Presumably it will be around for quite some time, as there will not be any suitable ex-stock unit ripe to be "vampired" to form a new vehicle until the 95 or 96 stock are being replaced... by which time the 72TS would have reached a ripe old age! (no point using a 73TS unit when they're withdrawn, right?) And final bit of idle curiosity: is there a date for the withdrawal of the current TRT? On all counts: just wondering, really...  |
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Post by astock5000 on Feb 18, 2009 21:50:30 GMT
On the 72TS TRT, how long is that expected to be in use? Presumably it will be around for quite some time, as there will not be any suitable ex-stock unit ripe to be "vampired" to form a new vehicle until the 95 or 96 stock are being replaced... by which time the 72TS would have reached a ripe old age! (no point using a 73TS unit when they're withdrawn, right?) What about 92TS? It also makes sense not to use 73TS or 95/96TS for a TRT, as they are longer, and can't run on some parts of the system. |
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Post by metman on Feb 18, 2009 23:19:48 GMT
The middle car is a 1973 stock car, and that fits ok! The 1960 DMs do have compressors however. I'd like to know what will happen to the curreny TRT. Surely two are better than one. Are the 1960s DM unreliable?
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Post by maxtube on Feb 19, 2009 17:41:39 GMT
They'll probably be either scrapped (more likely  ) or saved by CHT. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2009 17:58:26 GMT
ages ago tubelines were designing an observation train by completley rebuilding a few 72 stock cars, maybe that is it
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 19, 2009 19:23:25 GMT
There was an 8-car Victoria Line '67/'72 on the Alps this morning (05.55)
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Post by ghostofjk on Feb 19, 2009 20:42:07 GMT
There was an 8-car Victoria Line '67/'72 on the Alps this morning (05.55) Ah - sounds like that was it, nothing to do with the new TRT then I presume. (I was guessing the 92TS wouldn't ever be used for that purpose as I understand they can't run on the rest of the network, plus the build quality militates against one having a lengthy "second life" - could be wrong on both counts!) |
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Post by astock5000 on Feb 20, 2009 21:55:50 GMT
There was an 8-car Victoria Line '67/'72 on the Alps this morning (05.55) Then that would probably be 67TS units 3012 and 3077 (the test train). |
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Post by maxtube on Feb 21, 2009 13:04:18 GMT
Are 3012 and 3077 the test train for the new Vic ATO system?
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Post by astock5000 on Feb 21, 2009 13:07:31 GMT
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Post by Chris M on Feb 27, 2009 16:49:42 GMT
(I was guessing the 92TS wouldn't ever be used for that purpose as I understand they can't run on the rest of the network, plus the build quality militates against one having a lengthy "second life" - could be wrong on both counts!) I think it is only the lack of tripcocks that prevents the 1992 stock running on other lines. I presume that fitting tripcocks wouldn't be too difficult, but I agree that build quality issues would make them an unlikely choice for a second career. Also I don't think there are not enough spare to run a full timetable on the Central Line with the current failure rate, so any other uses of them would have to wait until their successor arrives. |
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Post by Ben on Feb 27, 2009 19:11:30 GMT
Theres something about the axel boxes aswell; they might be foul of some structures on other lines, IIRC. I doubt the 1992 tube stock will ever go on any other line; limited to train lengths of multipules of two they wont work on the Bakerloo, also they wont work on long car lines, Jub (PEDS if ran 8 car), Picc, Northern (need 7 cars), which leaves the Victoria and the W&C. Victoria is just getting new stock, and the W&C doesnt count because theyre on it already. Doubt even the Island line will have them as they are too sparse and spartan inside. Maybe put them on Chelney as ten car trains  |
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Post by astock5000 on Feb 27, 2009 22:17:32 GMT
I don't think any tube stock in service at the moment will ever go to other lines, as each time a tube line needs new trains, they are different to the trains on any other line. Each line needs different amounts of trains, and because of lines having different ATO systems.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 0:54:02 GMT
I don't think any tube stock in service at the moment will ever go to other lines, as each time a tube line needs new trains, they are different to the trains on any other line. Each line needs different amounts of trains, and because of lines having different ATO systems. Fully agree, the days of generic tube stock are well and truly over. |
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Post by Ben on Feb 28, 2009 13:51:17 GMT
Its funny that though, because a generic bodyshell and internal layout would work for each line now, such is the passenger loading. Its just each batch is designed so many years apart from the previous design that its not worth sticking too, and with each line a seperate buisness unit too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2009 17:15:01 GMT
I noticed an 8 car A60 on the Alps last night loaded with weights ready for it's brake block test.
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Post by upfast on Mar 6, 2009 19:38:58 GMT
I noticed an 8 car A60 on the Alps last night loaded with weights ready for it's brake block test. It has been out a few times this week already. |
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Post by metman on Mar 6, 2009 20:25:17 GMT
Which units are involved please? We may see them tomorrow?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 9, 2009 13:31:07 GMT
Which units are involved please? We may see them tomorrow? Today on the Alps were 5068+5189. |
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Post by Ben on Mar 9, 2009 18:29:12 GMT
What do the district line people make of the imposters on their railway? |
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Post by metman on Mar 9, 2009 18:50:14 GMT
They should be honoured! I caught a glimpse of the magnificent beast on Saturday! I also saw a load of bogies around the 4COR which were a mixture of standard stock trailing bogies and a 1938ts bogie!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 9, 2009 19:11:31 GMT
What do the district line people make of the imposters on their railway? Well, it used to surprise you to occasionally meet an 8-car between Aldgate East and St Mary's curve, even though you knew it could happen! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2009 2:31:43 GMT
That night was the first time I had seen the two refurbed stocks side by side and the A60s really look dated when stood next to the sleek look of a refurbed D stock. |
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