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Post by spsmiler on May 9, 2024 13:34:59 GMT
I recall long back that a train must be held in the adjoining island platform to protect those being detrained from a defective train at these stations. I am curious to know why a train is needed at the other platform at island platforms. Also, and to be candid, I would expect that whether an actual fire or just heavy smoke most passengers will just want to be off the train and actually make a fuss (even take physical action that makes self-evacuation possible, even if it damages the train) were they to be held on a train during this type of emergency incident simply because there is no train at the other platform face.
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Post by spsmiler on May 8, 2024 0:17:45 GMT
I suppose that 10 trains a week is far better than a Parliamentary service but in a large urban area where many routes have 4+ trains an hour a mere 10 trains a week is almost as useful as a Parliamentary train.
The timetable you quote reminds me of the SWR services that carry fare-paying passengers which are routed between Clapham Jcn and Wimbledon via East Putney, Southfields...
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Post by spsmiler on May 7, 2024 20:06:48 GMT
I note that the station ticks remained the correct colour!
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Post by spsmiler on May 7, 2024 20:03:06 GMT
Growler?
To my ears Sarah Siddons has a very melodious tone of voice such as befits an electric locomotive of distinction and its diesel locomotives that growl!
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Post by spsmiler on May 7, 2024 19:58:31 GMT
In olden days services that used the linking tracks (beween the two routes) at Willesden Junction were advertised as travelling via Hampstead Heath, with (typically) a number 3 in the route coding ie: B3.
This closure will also mean that Kilburn High Road - Euston will not be served.
Now I have a problem. I was planning to go to see the 4-TC set at the North Norfolk Railway Rails & Ales Event on 9th June. But this special service will include some 'very rare' tracks.
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Post by spsmiler on May 5, 2024 11:27:41 GMT
Station closed 0700-2134 No impact on train services, however as you say trains were detrained at Fairlop and Grange Hill and run empty. So passengers were unable to make through journeys between (for instance) Barkingside and Chigwell changing trains at Hainault .. and instead had to travel via Leytonstone and Woodford - or catch buses on route 167?
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Post by spsmiler on May 5, 2024 11:18:18 GMT
I wonder, would passengers appreciate the comfort of the HST?
These would attract railway enthusiasts wanting to experience an HST on 'rare track'.
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Post by spsmiler on May 5, 2024 11:12:46 GMT
Many people will see the railway being partially closed at the same time as the football as something of an own goal.
People are constantly advised to use public transport - but when they try to do this ... they cant.
OK the work needs doing but nevertheless it does not create the best public relations image
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 29, 2024 13:33:35 GMT
A section of railway closing because a bridge needs replacing is understandable, and doing this type of work during the school holidays when fewer passengers travel is not unusual, but its still very bad that passengers are being abandoned ... "go away, we just do not care about your need to travel to work, other destinations, etc"
BOO!
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 26, 2024 15:02:48 GMT
How many District line trains per hour go to Ealing Broadway? Would splitting the service as described above really be worthwhile?
As for more trains going to Wimbledon, now that the inner circle has been converted why cant more trains from Wimbledon start running to Edgware Road 'right now'?
An increase in frequency on the Earls Court - Edgware Road route sorely is needed too - the platforms at High St Ken - Paddington are often somewhat crowded and a train every 6 or so minutes is noticeably less frequent than some other inner-city routes.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 26, 2024 14:42:33 GMT
re: the use of copious amounts of wood, I hope that the possibility of woodworm has been considered.
re: replacement buses, the newspaper article revealed that 51.1% of the displaced passengers said that using these added 30 to 60 minutes to their journey durations - I am not surprised by this appalling state of affairs as apart from maybe the Thameslink stations at Hendon and Brent Cross West (which probably have faster trains but impose a significant extra financial burden on PAYG users) there is probably very little option for decent alternative services that do not extend journey times
*If only* there was another railway route to Edgware that could have had its services increased to meet with higher demand ... this might not have helped everyone, but it would have helped many people.
sigh
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 19, 2024 10:45:02 GMT
While we're on, what happened to the gap at Hainault? As a kid, I always wanted to go there, to see what it looked like in real life. It was only ever a paper gap - in reality platforms i and 2 are and always were through platforms, even if they were not always used as such. But when London Transport took over this route they rebuilt one of the platforms 2 in to an island and replaced its ornate full-length Great Eastern Railway platform canopy with a half-length Art Deco canopy, and the new platform leads in to the depot at its northern end.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 18, 2024 16:23:16 GMT
Seems someone has done an oopsie on the online map and made the section between Wanstead and Roding Valley blue instead of red ! Is it the same blue as the Piccadilly, or a subtly different blue? Perhaps the Hainault Loop is shortly to become a 'different mode'. I suspect that xtmw was correct - the blue was a mistake. now corrected.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 15, 2024 21:57:55 GMT
For the R stock the NDM with correct pattern windows, seats and passenger doors at both ends would have been a minimum requirement. R47 / R59 DM's would have been nice too but are not essential for an authentic R stock train.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 13, 2024 17:15:23 GMT
I miss the flare-sided subsurface trains* and Class 306 emus.
*For these I only knew what I think was PCM / camshaft control gear on the CO / CP trains with COP trailers. I am too young to have known the Metadynine (spelling?) control gear from when they were first built, nor the versions which were classified as Q38.
I also recall that the sound was different for R stock because their fluorescent tube lighting control gear emitted a constant 'whine', even when calling at stations.
The slam door BR trains, and 1960ts (onwards) LU trains are a different story as I have video and sound of these.
btw, I also recall how the lights would dim slightly when trains with bulb lights pulled away from rest.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 12, 2024 11:13:10 GMT
So this coming weekend they will be testing the new trains...
Just the one train?
Assuming that all goes well might it mean that the first of these will soon be in passenger service?
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 12, 2024 11:00:32 GMT
Interesting call this one (akin to who will be taking the Bill for LCH/excess journey time). Defo not Signalling problem - they just implement the TSRs requested by Track. Track will undoubtedly say not their problem because the track is probably OK - just it can't be verified via a service provided by others. So it comes down to the Track Recording Vehicle being the route cause - A fleet Asset? But if its down to a lack of spare parts could Stores & Logistics be the route cause ? The good news seems to be that they have narrowed down the problem to one of the track features measured (Cant) - Now hunting for the fix /spare part/ or redesign. Interesting comments re: which 'cost centre' should bear the burden of the financial implications of the problems being discussed in this thread. I have a question which might be better if split off to a new thread. Was it always like this? ie: have there always been all these (competing?) cost centres - even in the days before the formation of the LPTB? or were the financial implications of issues that affect the service and cause increased (and / or unexpected) operating costs managed differently?
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 10, 2024 21:07:35 GMT
very radical perhaps but cant the Cravens train be borrowed for the Hainault Woodford shuttle - an 8 car train is not needed there! (would be far more useful to far more people shuttling between Leytonstone and White City)
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 10, 2024 20:54:46 GMT
maybe a local museum or historical society would have documented such changes?
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 8, 2024 12:49:19 GMT
Yes watch this space indeed (with a degree of concern) ... as Metromodels stuff was 3D printed and Radleys was injection moulded, and Radleys were poised to introduce a proper R stock car (either DM or NDM, with two pane central windows).
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 8, 2024 12:42:37 GMT
Which brings to mind this week's Bakerloop bus proposal! The only was that could work would be to create 24/7 bus lanes along already congested roads, as has happened on the approach to Gants Hill on SL2. Voters beware the things you aren't told about when you vote!! Yes, but in a fit of genius the 24/7 bus lanes are where congestion did not exist before (but buses now risk being delayed as traffic tries to merge in to a single file and traffic turning left into the side roads must cut across the bus lanes) and nothing has been done to even try and reduce - the sometimes significant - delays at the roundabouts at Charlie Browns and Gants Hill. So in effect creating the bus lanes was a PR exercise - lots of spin (look we've created xx miles of new bus lanes) and only harm to ALL road users. One despairs with transport planners - so full of hubris / lacking in real world practicality that they could not even organise a drinking session in a brewery.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 4, 2024 17:06:30 GMT
Surely the Bakerloo extension south of Elephant and Castle must hold some sort of record in terms of how long it’s been proposed for? It’s been talked about since at least the 1940’s! Northern Heights extension from Edgware was already an old plan when works began. But I am not sure *how* old.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 1, 2024 20:23:56 GMT
oh good! Thanks for the info
its crazy how trains accelerate just as they enter a station - when they should be slowing down!
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 1, 2024 20:16:32 GMT
No need for a service increase as the signalling can deliver around 32-34tph between White City and Leytonstone, before the disruption it wasn't uncommon to see a train every minute or two during the peak I agree with your comment re: No need for a service increase but feel a need to clarify your comment before the disruption it wasn't uncommon to see a train every minute or two during the peak The reality is that no matter what the timetable is, bunching still occurs and I still often see eastbound trains almost nose to tail - at Stratford station, eastbound, off-peak! Also, it tends to happen that several trains in a row serve either the Epping or the Hainault branches, so that when a train for the other branch finally arrives it is quite crowded. If only the eastbound GEML local / electric line (nowadays Elizabeth line) service could be that frequent again - it would help reduce on-train overcrowding. (It was prior to 1990 signalling alterations).
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 1, 2024 10:33:45 GMT
maybe the train driver's shift is about to end and by running ecs there is less likelihood of delays causing enforced overtime
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 1, 2024 10:31:18 GMT
its a money pit, and at a time when the cupboard is bare that is unaffordable
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Post by spsmiler on Mar 31, 2024 12:55:50 GMT
Formalisation of the Harrow 'Hot Weather' plan, in operation until 29 September conditions permitting I am convinced that I have travelled on northbound trains making that very move. Admittedly it was years ago.
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Post by spsmiler on Mar 31, 2024 12:49:40 GMT
To be honest, I think it’s time a new Signalling System is installed on the Central Line. Maybe that will help the refurbished trains work better. Maybe upgrade the power on the Line as well so that it can benefit the AC Motors? Please, PLEASE... no (and NO!) What is there works - and some people might say that it actually works better (fewer foibles) than some other automated train control systems. It does not matter that this does not use the latest in 'all singing, all dancing' moving block tech.
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Post by spsmiler on Mar 31, 2024 12:41:47 GMT
The Ilford Recorder (local newspaper) dated 28th March 2024 says that the bridge will remain closed for now, as Redbridge council cannot afford a replacement.
So for now the option remains No.3, as suggested by Chris M (above).
My personal views: As this bridge is over a London Underground service and also used by several London Buses services its replacement should be funded by London. In effect this means TfL, perhaps under instruction from the GLA and Mayor of London. For all I care they will welcome to add extra spin on the press release about their funding it by including segregated cycle lanes - as well as segregated footpaths and segregated motorised traffic lanes.
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Post by spsmiler on Mar 27, 2024 9:57:16 GMT
If the branch line is ever electrified would there be a need to install signalling immunisation for Central Line trains in the Greenford station area? Not really in my domain and probably others better placed to answer, but, if we are talking about the trains only, Thanks but I was thinking of Central line signalling in the area around Greenford station, not the trains themselves as yes they already run alongside 25kV AC tracks at the two stations you mentioned.
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