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Post by JR 15secs on Nov 11, 2008 13:28:08 GMT
Hi, Does anyone have any info on the controllers offices that were above the station (Transad House)
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Post by Tubeboy on Nov 11, 2008 13:55:45 GMT
I know the Northern General manager and support staff are there, as well as the LU JNP service director. Some staff recieve annual refresher training there too.
Are the power control staff here, or somewhere else in Leicester Square?
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Post by JR 15secs on Nov 11, 2008 14:24:42 GMT
I know the Northern General manager and support staff are there, as well as the LU JNP service director. Some staff recieve annual refresher training there too. Are the power control staff here, or somewhere else in Leicester Square? I know they are used for offices now, there used to be all the controllers for the system switchboards etc and no that is not where the poer people are.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2008 18:54:56 GMT
What is it you want to know? I worked there as a Traffic Controller many years ago, including a Christmas Day 'night' shift (if that makes sense). Then it was just the Central Line, the last to occupy the control complex, so it was just me and ...... (nobody else).
Happy days!!
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Post by JR 15secs on Nov 11, 2008 19:06:23 GMT
What is it you want to know? I worked there as a Traffic Controller many years ago, including a Christmas Day 'night' shift (if that makes sense). Then it was just the Central Line, the last to occupy the control complex, so it was just me and ...... (nobody else). Happy days!! As I understand each line had a desk and just telephones nothing like todays control rooms. As they opened I believe 1939 was there any WW2 type equipment and how did they progress through the years, any dates would be helpful.
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Post by upfast on Nov 11, 2008 22:14:10 GMT
Is Transad House now Cranbourn Street? (The current JNP Divisional offices). Morden Depot - Power Control is elsewhere (Not saying where on here though ;-) ) What is it you want to know? I worked there as a Traffic Controller many years ago, including a Christmas Day 'night' shift (if that makes sense). Then it was just the Central Line, the last to occupy the control complex, so it was just me and ...... (nobody else). Happy days!! As I understand each line had a desk and just telephones nothing like todays control rooms. As they opened I believe 1939 was there any WW2 type equipment and how did they progress through the years, any dates would be helpful. At a recent retirement do, the lucky controller said that that's all they need; a timetable, log book, pen and phone (and a radio nowadays)....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2008 23:22:06 GMT
At a recent retirement do, the lucky controller said that that's all they need; a timetable, log book, pen and phone (and a radio nowadays).... Yep should be able to do the job with just that. Of course people do tend to rely on the increased amount of equipment (which is not always reliable). But the basics of the job remain the same, talking to some of the "old school" The other thing you need of course is your diagrams, especially when it comes to traction current.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2008 17:52:09 GMT
I certainly agree with tfc, as at Leicester Square (Transad House), that's all you had, including the signal and traction current diagrams, plus lighting and lifts/escalator feeder diagrams.
The control office at Leicester Square was first set up in 1909 for the LER lines but the place was rebuilt to bring all lines together between December 1939 and January 1940. The 'offices' comprised small interconnecting rooms.
The first of the de-centralisation began in 1962 when the Met/B'loo moved to Baker Street and the Head Controllers to 55 Broadway.
The former Met/B'loo office became a temporary Regulating Room for the Morden and Tooting areas for a few years.
The Dist/Picc moved away when Earl's Court Regulating Room opened. The Victoria Line first occupied Cobourg Street in 1968 and the Northern followed from Leicester Square the following year. The Central thus remained the only occupant until it moved to Baker Street in 1979.
The small direct line telehone key labels included, on the Northern Line desk, substation, signal cabin and Running SM keys for the aborted Northern Line extensions which were not, of course, connected up.
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Post by ribaric on Nov 12, 2008 18:40:53 GMT
A pointless question but could modern lines be adequately controlled in the way they had to do it at Leicester Square?
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Post by railtechnician on Nov 18, 2008 10:46:08 GMT
An interesting thread! I first visited Transad House in 1980, at that time it was unoccupied and somewhat derelict with pigeons occupying the top floor where part of the roof had collapsed and everything was covered in guano. At that time the old controllers positions were still extant and that was the purpose of my visit, I was there to cannibalise them for parts for other comms projects. ISTR it was the first floor that housed the clock relay room whence the clock pulses from Leicester Square exchange were distributed to all lines. This was decommissioned by accident when somebody who presumed it redundant got a fitter to saw through the clock rack cable form! It took five minutes to do the damage and more than a week to repair it. A new (not so new more than 20 years on!) clock distribution relay room exists beneath the old Leicester Square telephone exchange on the station, I assume it remains extant. These days it is known as Cranbourn Chambers and it is where Tube Lines Signals management are based.
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Post by programmes1 on Nov 18, 2008 13:03:04 GMT
The former Met/B'loo office became a temporary Regulating Room for the Morden and Tooting areas for a few years. I seem to remember reading that the lower regulating room was to be moved ustairs.The Dist/Picc moved away when Earl's Court Regulating Room opened. The Victoria Line first occupied Cobourg Street in 1968 and the Northern followed from Leicester Square the following year. The Central thus remained the only occupant until it moved to Baker Street in 1979. The District & Piccadilly moved 1970, the regulating room opened 1965 according to the traffic circulars.
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