Up behind him

For those who don't know, a compromised overlap in simple terms is where there is not enough distance between signals. When this occurs, the area covered by a signal is increased to make gaps between trains safer. I'm sure others can give a more detailed description, but that's the basic's.
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Yerse that's another thing. WHAT is the reason for these here compromised overlaps? I am told for instance that if a train is standing in Elm Park eastbound platform the following train is brought to a stand at the intermediate signal by the Chase whereas in my time you could get up to to the homes. Why the difference?

This "safety first" thing is going way OTT now. Don't they think a driver has brains and can THINK! I suppose it's down to money agin. "Oh dear a passenger has conked his nose on the wall during hard braking" "snot fair, we have to pay out some monies for that".....effing pathetic

Here in Stockholm, since we have always used cab signalling, our approach to distances between trains are a bit different. It is perfectly possible, permissable and sometimes even desireable to have several trains in the same block, on the same track circuit.

Rulewise, you can approach any train in front of you as clos as ten metres from their rear, without any special permission. You will have recieved a "Low Speed/Caution" cab signalling aspect, which you would have had to acknowledge, and your maximum speed would be restricetd by the cab signalling to 15 km/h, but otherwise you can just putter on. Of course, a red signal has to be obeyed in all cases.

The new ATP signalling system used on the green line works a bit differently, and actually generates "stop points" -points where the maximum permitted speed is zero. We can still approach up to ten metres from a train, but that requires switching the ATP to "permissive working mode" to by-pass the stop point, and it is not generally used anymore. On the red and blue lines, though, you can still see trains following each other into the platforms with ten-fifteen metres between them in the peak hours.

From some of the stories I've heard (Driver sitting on the PAC, pressing the wrong open buttons with no response, before deciding to override the correctly functioning CSDE and opening the doors on the wrong side) once one or two who don't think have proved they can't be trusted, everyone gets tarred with the same brush.

BTW, a compromised overlap is one where train could be tripped and stop outside the signal's overlap if the driver is exceeding the speed limit.

That makes this resignalling even worse, as there is no way that the speed limit could be exceeded in most of these cases. Up the East end, the gradients prevent the train going over 45mph, we just can't physically do it. The powers that be are definately butt covering!!!!!

You can on a decent train, especially Elm Park - Dag E. Not that I'm suggesting you should, but it is possible.

Elm pk to DAGE W/b is definately possible, but the signalling has been changed on the E/b from DAGE to ELM pk where its nigh on impossible unless both flags are up.

Now that PROVES something I have always suspected and that is that the short overlaps at starting signals is downright dangerous. It is the oly reason that trains have to slow to 5mph when running empty though a station.

I consider those short overlaps to be a danger to drivers and passengers (NOT "customers") alike and should be brought to the attention of the HSE