Station Starters at Westminster

According to the Traffic Circular it's to improve the sighting of them - SPAD reduction measure.

I went through Westminster several times today - I do think they're better, so they're in your view whilst observing the monitors too.

Too easy to S.P.A.D because your looking at the platform and not paying attention to the starters.

Or they could fix a repeating aspect in the platform monitors like at Fulham Broadway eastbound that way you're looking at the monitors and the stick at the same time.
Powers that be will know whats best - of course, they never ask us drivers do they?, you know the people that do the job all the time!

I'm on annual leave at the mo, but looking forward to seeing these new positions. IMHO all starters should be next to the monitors, though viewable for non stopping trains as well. As TMBA say's, just a humble drivers opinion.

West Ken eastbound is rubbish as well, although I've never seen it on whilst in the platform.

Its the same old story unfortunately, they only seem to do a select few like Westminster and eventually Ealing Common, well what about East Ham West, St James east & west, Temple east, Blackfriairs, Mansion house & Monument etc to name but a few.
Places of importance I thought would have come first IE S.P.A.D. locations would be nice, & what about FC1 at Plaistow? how long before you either get hit by a C2C or eaten by the vegetation.

Thanks Trainopd that will obviously help and are they gonna put the telephone up higher as well?

Well TOK I can tell you that years ago the last two home signals on the bank westbound at Bow Road always cleared together. Observations from and eastbound 'O' stock told me that they also went danger together as well. There were aslo some signals you never saw at red as a driver. these are now gone but one which comes to mind was the advance starter at Embankment eastbound. It would clear as the previous train stopped in Temple platform about 5 seconds after Embankment starter cleared.

At some locations although the separate signals returned to danger together they cleared in sequence.. The vagaries of LUL signalling are many and varied. I remember one place where the second home signal went to danger before the first did. Can't recall where that was though. Somewhere at the east on of the DR.

At Ealing Common eastbound the home signals clear like that, with the outer home clearing a second after the inner.


EDIT - It looks like Alan just beat me here

The hell of a clear run isn't a problem, it's the hell of a wait for them to clear that's a pain! ;D

Ok so be honest - How many of you like me look at the new starters at Westminster be it East or West take on the aspect then look at the old signal post down on the track as if the signal is still there!
Whats that all about?
Your answers please just to see if it ain't just me

Yes, I've done that as well!

One thing I noticed on the westbound is that the signal is quite a long way past the trainstop! I can't think of any other location where this is the case. Could you actually get tripped before passing the signal?