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Post by Chris W on May 10, 2005 18:08:30 GMT
Gentlemen On my travels back to Wimbledon this evening (following my failure to locate the D-stock refurbs on the Olympia & High Street K branch) I noticed a family of foxes (both parents & 2 cubs) playing adjacent to Roads 23 & 24, just south of Parsons Green tube station... Now that got me thinking (always dangerous when I'm involved) and I wondered whether any TO's (and other staff come to think of that) get to see much strange wildlife - I'm not talking about mice, rats, pigeons etc. Do any stations have any pets and what's the strangest animal you've seen on your travels... I look forward the any replies... and no I haven't seen a womble...!!! ;D ;D
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Post by Colin on May 10, 2005 18:23:49 GMT
The closest I can get is (admittedly a TOC station) - Upminster used to have a black cat, though I haven't seen it for a while.
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Post by Admin Team on May 10, 2005 18:51:26 GMT
Ah - the foxes on the Wimbo road - there are several families between East Putney and Wimbo, but I can't remember a family at PG before! It's great seeing them this time of the year, and watching the cubs grow and get braver, though, sadly, sometimes this doesn't have a happy end I put my hands up to actually doing an emergency brake application when I've seen a youngster make a dash across the tracks. As for others..... We recently had a black and white cat turn up at Acton Town, which was promptly pampered by all the 'hard' train crew - including one driver going and buying a tin of food and the cat then bedded down on one of the drivers anoraks, but I haven't seen it for a couple of weeks, so I guess it was an opportunist visit. I did hear a tale that there was a cat on the 'payroll' at Uxbridge for 'vermin control' - I believe it was so fat and lazy that it was not replaced when it retired. IMHO every depot should have, at least, a cat - it's railway tradition.
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Post by setttt on May 10, 2005 18:59:53 GMT
I'm surprised no one has mentioned seeing anything between the Bollo Lane bridge at Chiswick Park and Gunnersbury! There's a pretty big nature reserve running alongside the DR between these points...
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Post by Admin Team on May 10, 2005 19:13:11 GMT
Indeed there is - but I have to say that I've rarely seen anything down there, apart from an occasional solitary fox!
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Post by igelkotten on May 10, 2005 19:27:28 GMT
Högdalen depot is situated in a forested area on the edge of an industrial park, and within the depot area there are several small copses of woods, so there is a quite extensive wildlife in the depot. The most famous ones are probably the hares living in the depot. HUGE! ones, often with a very shiny and sleek grey-brown fur. They are absolutely unafraid of trains, and you almost expect them to start passing hand shunting signals to you when you enter the depot. "Stable on no.8 road, Driver, and bring a bag of lettuce while you are at it!" The hares are actually big enough to frighten and chase away some of the dogs belonging to the depot staff that also lounges about, depending on what shift is on duty. The cable runs and throughs are home to an extensive collection of field mice, keeping themselves warm and cozy in there durign the winter. More than one tired driver has thought that they were hallucinating when grey pieces of macadam suddenly sprouted little legs and paws and ran away... There are also two foxes living on or near the depot grounds. One is a big and healthy animal, the other one looks a bit scruffy and ragged. It can be absolutely fascinating to sit on a moonlit night and watch them stalk and pounce the mice. We have also had quite a few celebrated animal visitors. Roe are quite common, finding their way onto the track from people's gardens through holes in the fence cut by two-legged pests. Not as common, but still something that happens every now and then, are elk on the tracks. An elk is actually big enough to be something of a concern even for a train -they can rip your brake rigging and air system to shreds, for example. And, of course, all the runaway pets. Cats and dogs are quite common, but we have also had weasels, chicken, vietnamese black dwarf pigs, lizards and snakes (oooh! stones! warm and toasty! I think I'll lie here for a while...), rabbits and a few horses, although they are fortunately quite rare.
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Post by citysig on May 10, 2005 20:17:26 GMT
When I was resident at Hammersmith (Met) Cabin we had 2 pet cats. Believe it or not, one long-time signalman there actually received a small allowance each week for feeding them, as they were deemed as pest control. It wasn't much, only a couple of pounds each week I think.
One cat was taken home by a signalman - who had become very attached to it - when he retired (not the same one who had the allowance I might add - and the allowance was cut by half when one cat left, stingy ******s ).
The other cat wandered off and was last seen living it up in the nearby BTP office.
There was also a cat at Farringdon for a while, and the same allowance was paid to one of the signalmen. Unfortunately, in old age he became less agile and met his match under a fast Amersham one evening. They did at least suspend the service for a few minutes whilst he was removed from the track. Almost brings a tear to my eye until I look at my pest pet cat that has brought me a gift in the shape of a dead pigeon this evening! (How it caught it I don't know!)
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Post by q8 on May 10, 2005 22:21:25 GMT
There was, one morning in the late sixties, a most beautiful Deer gambolling about over the reception roads at Upminster. A young Hind. The crews going down the depot tried to corner it but it got a belt from the juice and made off rapidly over the LTSR tracks and away. It was not far west of the wash and where it had come from or went to is a mystery
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2005 7:47:30 GMT
See Dave's site for the story of a kangaroo bounding amongst High Barnet Sdgs - apparently it had gotten loose from a private zoo nearby and was happily chuntering along the trackage, heedless of being turned into roo burgers
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Post by chris on May 14, 2005 10:01:19 GMT
Is it true there is about 1/2 million mice/rats on the underground?
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Post by Phil on May 14, 2005 10:08:40 GMT
Not LU I know, but how about a llama in the 4ft on the WSR? (with vacuum brakes I only just missed it!).
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Post by q8 on May 14, 2005 14:41:42 GMT
Is it true there is about 1/2 million mice/rats on the underground? ----------------------------------------------------------- Quite possibly Chris. There are (or were) a large colony of Rats down at the Elephant and Castle too. D you know that rats migrate? One time when I was night spare at E & C myself and the Yardmaster were sitting quietly on the bench by the messroom on the northbound platform reading the paper sent down from upstairs (South London press). It was getting on for 3 in the morning and quiet as grave. Suddenly there was an odd noise from the tunnel to the sidings as if a train was approaching very slowly. The yardmaster got up to investigate and came scuttling back rapidly with the admonition to "gerrup on the bench quick" He did not give me chance to answer but jumped up and hoiked me up too. Then my horror THOUSANDS of rats came out of the tunnel running along the track. Some came up on the platform too and milled around the bench. A couple of them jumped up on the bench with us but were rapidly kicked off. This hoard passed us for around 90 seconds/2 minutes and carried on along the track towards Lambeth North and disappeared. The noise even woke the signalman who was having a doze in his cabin and he had seen that before and had slammed the cabin door before any of them got in. He told us that it happened every so often when a colony got too large so some of them upped sticks and moved elsewhere. They apparently came from the half completed Camberwell tunnel that continues on behind the plug at the end of the southbound siding. Bloody scared the life out of me I can tell you.
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Post by Tom on May 14, 2005 18:47:41 GMT
Things have changed there now... for a start LU now own South London House, we don't get the newspaper at 0300 (though we might get time to read the 'Z' notices in the working manual ), and there aren't any rats, or at least I never saw any. Also WRT the end of the tunnels. I've been down there and was under the impression the end plug is literally the end wall, and all the plans of the area that I've seen correlate to that. Was the plug added at a later date from the tunnel being driven?
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Post by Admin Team on May 14, 2005 21:00:57 GMT
Is it true there is about 1/2 million mice/rats on the underground? It wouldn't surprise me at all. Most times when you stand near a headwall in a tube tunnel station you'll see a few mice scampering about. You do have to keep your eyes open for them, as they're very much dust coloured - I've been told that it's not that they're dirty, but that their colouring has evolved to fit their environment. I don't know if that's true, but it sounds plausible to me! As for rats, oh yes - there's those too! There's some as big as kittens (I joke not!) and they tend to appear more on open section stations. There's a particular one who is often seen on the tracks at the departure end of Platform 2 at Earls Court. I know it's the same one as he's got half his tail missing. There used to be one at Acton Town too who was often seen wandering along the wall ajacent to Platform 1, but I haven't seen him for a while. Shame the useless git seen perching on my shoulder <<<<<<<<<---------- wouldn't be any good at chasing them - he'd run a mile!
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Post by q8 on May 14, 2005 23:23:38 GMT
Also WRT the end of the tunnels. I've been down there and was under the impression the end plug is literally the end wall, and all the plans of the area that I've seen correlate to that. Was the plug added at a later date from the tunnel being driven? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When I was down there in the early 70's there was a stationman who had been at the Elephant from 1929 and he said that the tunnel towards Camberwell had definitely been started in the 30's but did not get far and in only one bore. Apparently a shaft had been sunk at Camberwell Gate and the heading was toward the Elephant and linkled up with the southbound siding. The plug was put in at the outbreak of war. However the plug is not total as there is a gap at the bottom. Or was in the 70's. Me and a Guard when stabling one night took our Bardics and shone them through the gap and the tunnel does continue on the other side from what we could see. A thin man could have crawled through the gap but neither of us had the guts. We made a discovery too in that there is a gap in the siding wall about halfway down and we looked in there too and discovered it to be a fan. Similar to the one in the southbound platform. Now it was always hot down those sidings and we asked the yardmaster why the fan was not working in the siding and he called us a pair of potty sods as there was no fan. We took him down there and showed it to him and he was amazed as it was not shown on any plans of the station but the southbound platform one was and that worked. He apparently made enquiries about it and found it had been forgotten about over the years. I left Elephant shortly after but I did hear that it was repaired and was running again. I don't know if it still is.
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Post by Tom on May 15, 2005 13:28:14 GMT
Cheers for the info Q8. I've beeen down to the end of both and stood beyond the sand drags as can be seen here (end of SB siding) but I have to admit I never looked at the bottom of the plug. The fan is staill there, though it hasn't been working for a few years now and the sidings are as hot as they ever were.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2005 20:32:00 GMT
According to my good friend, Andrew Emmerson, the Bakerloo extension to Camberwell had around half a mile of completed tunnel when it was abandoned. An issue of the 'London Railway Record' has a feature on the Camberwell extension.
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