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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2008 20:40:24 GMT
Hi Folks, I was at Highbury and Islington the other day and noticed the Southbound 3rd and 4th rails had been renewed and were supported by a new design of insulator. Does anyone know anything about them? And am I right in thinking that the new conductor rails are made of metal other than steel?: paulbigland.fotopic.net/p51914347.html
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2008 20:47:56 GMT
aluminium i think they made of as when they wear down the top surface is slid off and replaced the conductor rails that is
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Post by c5 on Jul 13, 2008 21:46:12 GMT
I think they are the ones mentioned in recent Traffic Circulars.
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Post by railtechnician on Jul 14, 2008 11:22:06 GMT
Aluminium traction rails have been around for a while. Long before them came the aluminium traction jumpers which I first saw at Liverpool Street Central Line in the mid 1990s. Of course aluminium is much lighter than copper and those old 935mm2 'snakes' weighed a ton and cost a fortune too with the heavy brass lugs on each end. The trouble with aluminium as a conductor is that it oxidises quickly in air and becomes highly resistive. In the 1970s during the great copper shortage it was used by the BPO as a replacement for copper telephone distribution cables and led to crimping as the only way to make it usable as screwed connections went high resistance within a few hours of installation.
I imagine that aluminium traction rails have the advantage of a 'friction' connection as the shoes traverse them but I can't help wondering if there are any problems when a train has been stabled upon them for a few hours. It may be that 630v dc is enough to break down the oxide or is it perhaps that something is added to the mix in production to prevent such oxidisation.
Thinking about it isn't the current rail on DLR an aluminium rail? I must admit that I never looked that closely at one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 16:07:37 GMT
I imagine that aluminium traction rails have the advantage of a 'friction' connection as the shoes traverse them but I can't help wondering if there are any problems when a train has been stabled upon them for a few hours. It may be that 630v dc is enough to break down the oxide or is it perhaps that something is added to the mix in production to prevent such oxidation. If they are anything like the BR equivalent they have a steel cap on the top of the rail, to give a more wear resistant surface.
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Post by stanmorek on Jul 14, 2008 19:58:11 GMT
Yes the main rail is an aluminium alloy with stainless steel capping though I've always wondered how the risk of bimetallic corrosion is avoided. Perhaps the galvanic cell is disrupted by the current passed through the rail.
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Post by Oracle on Jul 14, 2008 20:08:57 GMT
Is there any zinc added to the aluminium (in an alloy) to make it less prone to oxidisation? I can't imagine that the rails are galvanised.
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Post by ducatisti on Jul 15, 2008 10:10:51 GMT
They look a similar design to ones I've seen on the southern region (obv taller). The SR ones aren't twisted like those though - out of interest, which way do trains run on that pic? I wonder what the twist gives?
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Post by Rich32 on Jul 15, 2008 10:46:36 GMT
- out of interest, which way do trains run on that pic? Right to left as this is the southbound.
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Post by ducatisti on Jul 15, 2008 13:04:07 GMT
Hmmm, can't see any specific advantage. I wonder if there is any curvature that puts a specific lateral force on the rail there?
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Post by 100andthirty on Jul 15, 2008 19:24:29 GMT
www.brecknell-willis.co.uk/systemscr.htmthis is a decent link if anyone is interested in more info about low loss conductor rail. it's being installed on the VLU and other places to permit more current to be drawn without excessive volt drop between sub-stations
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