Circles to Go

Just asking here, because I feel this is somewhat related to the teacup.
What are the (if any) names of the Edgware Road stations (Bakerloo/SSL)? I mean in the style of Praed st/Bishop's Rd for Paddington etc.

EDIT: Also placing the same question about Hammersmith district/picc and h+c.

But eastbound trains approach from the west end of the station.

Getting back to what is actually going to happen, how will the changed service pattern be dispalyed to passengers. Are there plans to modify the in-train announcements? The platform "next train" indicators? The in-car maps? (This would be clearest by showing two rings at ERd, one for H&C plus through Circles, the other for District and terminating Circles, with the two yellow lines well separated)

What about the Tube Map itself? Don't forget that any day now (if it hasn't happened already!) 2010 diaries will hit the shops, all with tube maps in the back. Will they show the new service pattern? I doubt it!

Something not raised in this thread is the lack of ticket issuing facilties at Paddington Suburban. The former NSE ticket office has long been information-only and there is no LUL UTS 'POM suite' with FFM and MFM machines. Such tcket machines that are provided are remote from the gateline (at the top of the slope from the main line platforms) and freestanding, possibly of FGW provenance, so may not even accept cash (LU's Q-busters are card-only). Today I travelled from Earls Court to Edgware Road and was suprised not to hear any "board next train" announcements at stations given that no trains on that section were going beyond Edgware Road. Perhaps I was unlucky and maybe suitable notices were on show in ticket halls, but people were being left behind on platforms so clearly the message literally wasn't getting through. At Paddington (Circle) hordes of suitcase-wielding tourists boarded, all of whom should have been directed to the H&C platform, Chaos ensued at Edgware Road with some staying put on the train in platform 3, others lugging belongings over the narrow central footbridge to platform 1, and a few milling around aimlessly on platform 4! Whilst Paddingdon Suburban may be a reasonable alternative for those starting their LUL journey from that point, it's no use to anyone travelling from High Street Kensington, Notting Hill Gate or Bayswater.

Because metman's original question asked which bay roads can be accessed from the east end of the station, but your answer related to eastbound trains which, as you say, approach the station from the west.

Can a train from Baker Street use any platform other than No 4?


21146's account of today suggest that a "Broken Circle" service is running again this weekend (as mentioned on this thread on June 17th), ands the live departure boards seem to suggest this, but there is no mention of having to change at Edgware Road on the TfL site.

I actually applaud LU's decision to "do something" about the Circle Line, having had to follow or be held up by it for years during my driving days. However the T-Cup idea seems a half-hearted attempt which still doesn't eliminate the flat-junction working that delays other lines. Since LU is never going to have money to rebuild these areas, I would have been more radical and withdrawn it altogether, whilst extending the Edgware Road service to Moorgate (yes, which would have to cross the Inner Rail, as was, to reach the bay roads). This would alter the main passenger 'pinch point' from Edgware Road to Earls Court, the latter being far better equipped to cope with large crowds and with step-free interchange between all platforms.

For the first one, had the train displayed "Circle Line" en-route to Hammersmith, or, judging by the picture alone, had the driver changed it just prior to changing ends?

For the second one, they all appear to be moving in the same direction. No mad panic visible. It's not ideal, and this has been mentioned ad nauseum on this thread, but there is not a real sense of confusion as you put it in this picture.

For the third one, if they have all just got off the train in platform 2, then cross-platform interchange for stations east has been achieved. If they all want Hammersmith, then they will have to use the bridge - which is what they have to do on the exisiting timetable. If they wanted an Inner-Rail Circle, then they have clearly boarded the wrong train ex-Paddington.

Don't work for a tabloid do you 21146? You seem to be trying to make a sensation out of a few pictures that don't exactly convey what the story states.



My apologies, I now see what you mean. In answer to the question, only platforms 3 (middle) and 4 can be accessed when coming west from Baker Street.



Haven't these ideas already been explored? I'm not sure, but 40-odd pages into this thread seem to have a sense of de-ja-vu about them.

The new timetable works on paper (as has been said). Other options were available (as has been said). This is the one they've gone for. These weekends will hopefully highlight some of the short-comings, but also highlight some of the advantages (one of which I witnessed first thing this morning.)

Moorgate, as I think I hinted at a few pages ago, would increase our nightmares by a great deal.



Again, the naming of the lines has also been discussed at length. No change will be occuring at least as far as December goes. Liverpool Street is really only the half-way point for the H&C between Hammersmith and Barking. But then you may suggest we ditch that part too in favour of the next mirrored part which is served by the District.

The different line names indicate where a customer boarding such a train will end up. There are several areas of the network which mirror one another. None have ever justified the renaming or even scrapping of a line.