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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 10:30:19 GMT
The thread about RGIs made me think about slang and what railway slang people are/aren't familiar with. I didn't think referring to RGIs as cherries was particularly unusual. This may have been done before but shall we put together a little list? I remember doing this a while ago at work for a new recruit, we came up with pages of terms (this was after she thought that a driver going "on the cushions" meant he was going in a taxi).
So....just a few to start off with
cherries - RGI
bang road - wrong direction
dolly - shunt signal
on the cushions - driver travelling as a passenger
I'll come back and add some more but really got to do some other things rather than loiter online.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 12:33:14 GMT
bang road - wrong direction Hmmm... this one intrigues me - as a computing person, I interpret "bang" to mean "!" which can sometimes mean "not", or "opposite". I wonder if that is involved in the derivation of this term. Also, of course, we have: sticks - signals blowing up - sounding the whistle I'm sure there are plenty of others. |
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Post by c5 on Jan 21, 2008 12:38:43 GMT
Wrong'un - Wrong Signal (Route) Lowered
Sit down - A train with no operator in the platform
Stock and Crew Reform (not at Camden ;D ;D ) - Where the operator and passengers swap trains.
Old Man - Service Controller
Pair - Trains running out of turn (timetable order)
Tip out - Detrain
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 13:17:19 GMT
bobby- old term for signaller
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 13:43:02 GMT
Hmmm... this one intrigues me - as a computing person, I interpret "bang" to mean "!" which can sometimes mean "not", or "opposite". I wonder if that is involved in the derivation of this term. I assumed it was probably because if you went the wrong direction, you might bang into another train... it amused me, anyway! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 14:47:02 GMT
Old Man - Service Controller I have been variously referred to as the "old woman" "old lady" "old girl" - tbh I'd rather be the old man ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 15:08:08 GMT
Old Man - Service Controller I have been variously referred to as the "old woman" "old lady" "old girl" - tbh I'd rather be the old man ;D And why not? Taken at its neutral meaning it is quite correct. |
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Post by Colin on Jan 21, 2008 15:44:41 GMT
I always say "Ello Guv'nor" - would that suffice? ;D ;D Anyway...... Road - various meanings such as road training (learning the line), double road (train in front missing), road number (siding number), etc. Lamp - fancy name for torch ;D Defect or defective- contrary to popular belief, this actually means there is something wrong/broken  EDIT: actually, I gonna sticky this as a useful thread  |
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Post by c5 on Jan 21, 2008 15:47:34 GMT
I always say "Ello Guv'nor" - would that suffice? ;D ;D Anyway...... Defect or defective- contrary to popular belief, this actually means there is something wrong/broken Dud ;D ;D Unless you have just helped them out, never mate! You might be met with "I'm not your mate" ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 19:45:19 GMT
I wonder if we should include some of the more "official" ones..... ;D
Signal failure: Spad
Crew Relief Problems: driver watching TV
'Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen, sorry for the delay. We are just being held on a red signal and should be moving shortly' : I have no earthly idea why we are sitting here and I'm not allowed to ask for another 90 seconds. And even then I'm not likely to find out....
Minor delays: This might take a while.
Severe delays: We have no idea what's going on.
Suspension: The line is completely borked, go away now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 20:13:04 GMT
Nah, signal failure is signal failure - signalling problem is SPAD. Woe betide NOC if they get it wrong as all the big hats know that distinction and ask questions ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 20:15:31 GMT
I always say "Ello Guv'nor" - would that suffice? ;D ;D There's one supervisor at Charing Cross who always phones up and says "hello leader" which I think is lovely! I can't stand (male) drivers who call me "love" or "darling" on the radio. I usually call them "driver" or "operator" so why can't they just call me "control"? |
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Post by c5 on Jan 21, 2008 20:28:50 GMT
I always say "Ello Guv'nor" - would that suffice? ;D ;D There's one supervisor at Charing Cross who always phones up and says "hello leader" which I think is lovely! I can't stand (male) drivers who call me "love" or "darling" on the radio. I usually call them "driver" or "operator" so why can't they just call me "control"? Saying "Me dear" or "Ma love" is a friendly railway term sometimes. A conductor on my train was saying it I sometimes use it too ;D ;D And is said to everyone, not just female staff |
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Post by Colin on Jan 21, 2008 21:06:30 GMT
Crew Relief Problems: driver watching TV Sorry gappe, gotta correct this one - the actual definition is that the tea machine has run out of cups  ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Oracle on Jan 21, 2008 21:14:30 GMT
May I suggest, tfc, as sa man who appreciates women who can compete ina man's world, like my Mum, that it should be "Controle"? Also, I would want to be on your best side if I worked on the railway...women, sorry persons of the opposte gender, have long memories and ....you get my drift!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 21:44:01 GMT
adding some more.....
one-under - person under train (also 2 or more unders have been known)
stepping back - where each driver gets off their train and there's another driver waiting at the other end to depart, the original driver will "step back" 2 or 3 trains giving them time to walk down the platform and be ready to depart when their train comes in (or that's the theory anyway)
item - any delay of 2 or more minutes in theory is booked by the controller as an "item" on the failure and delay (F&D) sheet. Items are then allocated to duty managers to investigate and write an IRF (Incident Report form - now usually Electronic EIRFs).
BTW JTD I wish you'd stop mentioning the Camden thing. It haunts me every time I have to do a stock and crew......especially at Camden ;D
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Post by stanmorek on Jan 21, 2008 22:16:15 GMT
Anyone know what a "two dogs" is?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2008 1:40:14 GMT
a stepping back - where each driver gets off their train and there's another driver waiting at the other end to depart, the original driver will "step back" 2 or 3 trains giving them time to walk down the platform and be ready to depart when their train comes in (or that's the theory anyway) Ah, no. Sorry. Stepping back = time for a cuppa. |
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Post by Chris M on Jan 22, 2008 1:43:26 GMT
"wrong stick" - either the signalling computer has cocked up and thinks the train is going somewhere different to where the driver thinks its' going; or the signaller has made the booboo and their blaming it on the computer |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2008 8:21:04 GMT
Anyone know what a "two dogs" is? Assuming it's neither the alcopop nor two actual dogs, no idea. |
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Post by railtechnician on Jan 22, 2008 14:20:48 GMT
Mmm, lots of familiar slang there! Let's have a few more.
Walking bang road - walking with one's back to traffic i.e. the wrong way.
Some animal slang;
Cow's Udder - old style telephone cable link box
Cats & Dogs - parts of interlocking machine or lever frame
Pig's ear - the lamp at the side of the main signal aspect for the motorman to see when close up
Dog cock - Neoprene terminal on the end of a track hose that mates with a diddy box.
Elephant's Trunk - Trackside ready to start plunger
Donkey cock - same as elephant's Trunk
Snake - point or trainstop moulded multicore cable or traction jumper cable
Tit - rubber or neoprene sleeve slipped over a cable end to neaten a termination
Butterfly - a plastic mounting screwed to a rack to tie wiring looms to.
Mouse - coiled flexible rod of fibre glass or nylon used to pull in cables
Fish / Fishing - working blindly in the hope of catching what is required - usually a cable.
Other slang;
Bathtub - an old style cable termination box
Diddy Box - TDB - track disconnection box
Banjo - a neoprene cap in the shape of a banjo to insulate a spare wire with an eye
Eye - a wire end formed into a ring for termination under a screw terminal
In the green - the relay is energised
Popeye - valve spanner
HKE - what the signal operator should see when he sets a route - yellow indication light
Trip - Trainstop
Trip arm - Trainstop Arm
Drops /Dropped On - Train shunting track circuit
Resurrections - Written Instructions
Prints - Circuit Diagrams
Cluster - obsolete nowadays but was 3 bulbs in a portable housing giving extra light.
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Post by william on Jan 22, 2008 15:09:51 GMT
Mouse - coiled flexible rod of fibre glass or nylon used to pull in cables I remember the days when they were made of spring steel but now discontinued for obvious reasons.  |
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Post by towerman on Jan 22, 2008 18:47:27 GMT
Juice-traction current.
Pull off-clear signal.(by signal operator)
Reform/make up-change the composition of a train.
Compo-the units that make up the train.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2008 18:50:52 GMT
Push-out: Assisting a defective train to move by using the following train.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 9:44:27 GMT
Butterfly - a plastic mounting screwed to a rack to tie wiring looms to. As opposed to: Butterfly cock - control on side of a car for releasing doors when normal methods can't be used ... and from this, we derive the verb "butterfly". |
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Post by Oracle on Jan 23, 2008 11:57:38 GMT
I wonder if I might permitted by LURS to scan and post here my former colleague's DICTIONARY OF UNDERGROUND SLANG that caused such a furore in the early 1980s? It was published in UNDERGROUND.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 12:15:06 GMT
I wonder if I might permitted by LURS to scan and post here my former colleague's DICTIONARY OF UNDERGROUND SLANG that caused such a furore in the early 1980s? It was published in UNDERGROUND. That would be very interesting if you can do it. |
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Post by railtechnician on Jan 23, 2008 12:15:44 GMT
Mouse - coiled flexible rod of fibre glass or nylon used to pull in cables I remember the days when they were made of spring steel but now discontinued for obvious reasons. I still have my spring steel mouse, it's far more useful than the nylon equivalent which I also have. H&S is a double edged sword! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 12:16:45 GMT
Butterfly cock - control on side of a car for releasing doors when normal methods can't be used ... and from this, we derive the verb "butterfly". And porter buttons for closing the doors on each car individually, primarily used when "tipping out" as each car has to be checked that it's clear of passengers before the doors are closed. |
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Post by railtechnician on Jan 23, 2008 12:25:47 GMT
Butterfly - a plastic mounting screwed to a rack to tie wiring looms to. As opposed to: Butterfly cock - control on side of a car for releasing doors when normal methods can't be used ... and from this, we derive the verb "butterfly". There is another type of 'butterfly' once found in large numbers in certain places. This was more telephone slang but used on the railways too, the 'butterfly' being a thick circular washer with one quarter cut away like a slice of cake, a pair of which secured a strip of jacks to a switchboard or panel allowing the strip to be removed and replaced easily in theory. The only ones I know to be extant these days are found on the remains of the wartime switchboard at Down Street but they used to be found on almost every station. |
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