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Post by max on May 29, 2008 13:30:33 GMT
I'm trying to compile a list of all electronic tube maps officially released by LUL/TfL into the public domain, just the plain standard maps to begin with, plus the fantasy ones. Obviously other electronic maps exist, but I want to stick to the ones that collectors can legitimately have on their computers (and exchange). For diehard collectors, many of these are interesting because they have no paper equivalent.
This is what I have so far:
No date, but issued during 2000
No date, but between late 2001 and early 2002
No date, but April 2003
April 2003
May 2005
January 2006
June 2006
July 2006
August 2006
January 2007
November 2007
January 2008
March 2008
April 2008
And the fantasy maps:
Created in 2004, showing the projected network for 2016
Created in 2006, showing the projected network for 2010
Created in 2007, showing the projected network for 2025
Happy to email files to anyone who wants to fill gaps in their own collections.
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Post by ianvisits on May 29, 2008 13:48:54 GMT
I didn't think TfL ever released their maps into the public domain though - as they are usually very strict about copyright issues for the maps.
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Post by max on May 29, 2008 14:44:09 GMT
I meant public domain in the colloquial rather than the legal sense. I don't need a lesson on copyright issues and the Underground map, I've written about it. www.afterbeck.com |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2008 23:22:15 GMT
Max what do you mean these maps don't have a paper equivalent. Aren't these the posters at the stations ? Does this mean that TfL is posting different maps at the stations than online ?
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Post by max on May 30, 2008 7:03:38 GMT
The early maps often had no grid. Even today there are subtle differences quite often. For example, the January 2008 file correctly shows Shepherd's Bush as not yet open, presumably they printed all the posters and folders, and then realised there were problems with the station wall, and corrected the file. Also, I think T5 opened on the file earlier than on paper. It makes all those 'correct at time of press' claims a bit weird.
I've not done a full analysis, without the posters in front of me, I can't!
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2008 7:47:31 GMT
Oh I understand now. So Max was there ever a poster version at the stations for February that showed the blue boxes like the February pocket version ?
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Post by ruislip on May 30, 2008 20:08:05 GMT
Wasn't there a tube map in the mid-80s showing the British Rail express service between Victoria and Gatwick?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2008 2:24:46 GMT
Max,
Do you have the electronic versions of the Car Line Diagrams from when they started posting them on the web back in the early-mid ninties ? If so I would love pdf copies of them.
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Post by max on Jun 2, 2008 7:32:56 GMT
I don't remember that one. I've seen some unofficial maps that try to squeeze it on, but not the real thing. Could it have been a flyer that you remember rather than an official map?
Sorry, that one never registered in my memory. London Transport Museum takes all posters now, and are putting their collections online. In the next year, maybe we will just be able to look at the images directly to find out.
If they did, I never downloaded them, but that doesn't mean that other people didn't.
But early/mid ninetees sounds a bit in the internet dark ages to me. I'm not even sure that LRT (as it would have been) had a website back then.
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Post by Phil on Jun 2, 2008 9:42:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2008 12:11:53 GMT
So does anyone have the Car Line Diagrams from the mid ninties ? Also I was after the DLR Car Line Maps from mid 1997 to end of 1999
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 2, 2008 17:52:14 GMT
That map is so old its got Ongar and Aldwych on it! |
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Post by angelislington on Jun 5, 2008 10:24:10 GMT
Phil, you are a BAD BAD bear. I have spent 110 minutes doing the stupidly fiddly 247-triangle version. Go and sit on the naughty step and contemplate the error of my ways. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2008 1:15:30 GMT
Has anyone noticed that the standard tube map on the TfL webpage has reverted back to the 1st March poster map. The April poster map that was there has been removed for some reason ?
Also the High Frequency Services shows "June 2008 Web update". Does this mean that there isn't a paper version of this at the stations ?
I still haven't seen the May pocket map yet. Is it available at the stations yet ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2008 21:10:30 GMT
There isn't a May update, last update was April after T5 opened. There shouldn't be an new pocket map until Wood Lane/Shepards Bush re-opening later in the year.
On a helpful note I will dig out my collection and make a list for people!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2008 0:31:21 GMT
Mack actually there will be a May pocket map. It should be out soon. My source at TfL said they needed a new one because Oakwood is now step free on the map again and the "Mayor of London symbol is all blue now.
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Post by Ben on Jun 17, 2008 16:10:51 GMT
All blue? Is this a conservative tweak?
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Post by ruislip on Jun 17, 2008 20:23:47 GMT
All blue? Is this a conservative tweak? I thought conservativism was represented by the color RED. |
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Post by max on Jun 18, 2008 6:59:59 GMT
Cold war memories fade fast.
Better dead than red?
Reds under the bed?
We'll keep the red flag flying here?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2008 13:25:24 GMT
Mack actually there will be a May pocket map. It should be out soon. My source at TfL said they needed a new one because Oakwood is now step free on the map again and the "Mayor of London symbol is all blue now. But Oakwoods been step free on the maps since the Feb 2008 update. Ive got that map in my hands now. Doubt they will reprint the map just for the blue Mayor or Lond on |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2008 20:14:35 GMT
But Oakwoods been step free on the maps since the Feb 2008 update. Ive got that map in my hands now. Doubt they will reprint the map just for the blue Mayor or Lond on Not sure about the pocket maps, but I know on the large editions used on stations, the step-free was removed when they realised it wouldn't open for a while. The lift is in service now, though. |
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Post by ruislip on Jun 18, 2008 20:31:20 GMT
Cold war memories fade fast. Better dead than red? Reds under the bed? We'll keep the red flag flying here? I was referring to lingo used here in the US. "Red" states tend to be conservative and vote Republican (mainly the Southern and Midwestern states), while "Blue" states tend to be liberal and vote Democrat(mainly states on the Northern half of the Atlantic coast and the entire Pacific coast). |
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Post by Chris M on Jun 18, 2008 20:34:37 GMT
In the UK it's the opposite - blue represents the conservatives and red labour (although there are many socialists who would disagree that this is appropriate)
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