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Post by Chris W on Nov 26, 2007 16:37:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2007 16:44:36 GMT
Although I'm not a "fan" of Emma's work, as her voice is quite frankly annoying to listen to after a long shift, it seems a bit OTT to be quite honest, and I for one can remember her saying what she said, wherever I read it, in that exact way! - No criticism of LU whatsoever.   My opinion is that the "spoof" announcements are what have angered LU more than anything, as she uses London Underground's name to advertise them, which contain quite "strong" language, so it isn't a great image for LU. |
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Post by Tomcakes on Nov 26, 2007 18:22:53 GMT
Heh, just seen this. Rather amusing!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2007 19:11:29 GMT
i saw an article on thisislondon andwith it bein the standard there was your typical sensationalism although there were 1 or 2 quotes which did indeed ms clark say 1 or 2 bad things about the tube in her defence it was more about the tavelling experience rather than the system or company. its a shame as i really o like her voice. i hope she sues the es for libel. EDIT: i would have liked to have posted a link to the oriinal article but it has now been updated on all about how she got refused anymore work. this article is here: tinyurl.com/2yendg |
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Post by sm on Nov 26, 2007 20:52:03 GMT
Man, seems noone can take a joke these days...
Saying that though, I did like the TfL's response..
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Post by c5 on Nov 27, 2007 5:04:14 GMT
I believe that the real reason she is no longer doing it is that owing to "a fault", she keeps saying good service even when you have to wait 20 minutes for a train. The replacement one with a newt lover speaking in an irritating nasal voice will have no PR/Political motives and will tell the truth.
But only after May 2008.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2007 9:34:53 GMT
Personally I think that her spoof announcements were unprofessional, and thus it's no surprise that LU are not going to use her again.
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Post by Tomcakes on Nov 27, 2007 10:06:40 GMT
They said on the news that "London Underground would like to inform passengers that further contracts with Emma Clarke are now suspended".
That is very annoying - but who cares? As long as the station staff get their "targets" of announcing something every 30 seconds, and telling us there's a good service when there blatantly isn't, everything is fine!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2007 13:20:11 GMT
Personally I think that her spoof announcements were unprofessional, and thus it's no surprise that LU are not going to use her again. Sense at last!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2007 15:33:11 GMT
Personally I think that her spoof announcements were unprofessional, and thus it's no surprise that LU are not going to use her again. I'm of a similar mind; in my previous job part of the contract was that we weren't to bad mouth the company or disagree with their whilst in uniform and at work, and I think the penalty was a disciplinary which could lead to dismissal. I don't think anyone was ever hauled up for it to my knowledge. Whilst the situations aren't directly analogous, it does seem to be a slight case of biting the hand that feeds you - although possibly management have overreacted slighty; having not really listened to any of the announcements, I don't know. Wonder if they're looking for a replacement yet? I'd do it for free. (Well, as free as you can get when they're already paying me a CSA wage... I'd do it on my rest days, honest, guv!) |
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Post by Chris M on Nov 27, 2007 15:49:29 GMT
Now that has given me an idea (usually dangerous!) - we should all record our own versions of the announcements with a prize for the best, perhaps at the Christmas Meet. Perhaps we should have a set of five that we all do to make it easier to compare.
Initial thoughts for which anoucnements:
"Mind the gap" (this has got to be there!)
"This is a District Line train to Upminster"
"This station is Baker Street, change here for the Circle, Hammersmith and City, Bakerloo and Metropolitan Lines"
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Post by happybunny on Nov 27, 2007 16:23:50 GMT
Does anyone know why when they refurbished Kings X station they didn't use her voice on the DVA they have a mans voice. AFAIK they used her voice on all the station DVAs when station was being refurbished so why not at Kings X ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2007 17:41:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2007 18:33:01 GMT
Initial thoughts for which anoucnements: "Mind the gap" (this has got to be there!) "This is a District Line train to Upminster" "This station is Baker Street, change here for the Circle, Hammersmith and City, Bakerloo and Metropolitan Lines" What about the insanely long District DVA at Tower Hill? ;D |
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Post by happybunny on Nov 27, 2007 19:46:18 GMT
I always cut it off at Tower Hill... it is embarrassingly stupid! Even worse when train is terminating !
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Post by superteacher on Nov 27, 2007 20:23:16 GMT
Unprofessional?  ??!!!!!! - a bit of harmless fun, and something to make LU's long suffering commuters smlle. Rather than scratching the surface and sacking poor Emma, they should have a long look at the hugely unprofessional and disorganised way the Central line was operated after the disruption on Saturday evening (see my thread in the Central line section). And start weeding out those control room staff, who in the opinion of the poor drivers who have to face passengers forced to change platforms 3 times in the space of 10 minutes, don't know their a*** from their elbow. |
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Post by c5 on Nov 28, 2007 1:31:40 GMT
I wouldn't alway go with the opinions of the Train Operators!
That's like asking the cattle if they like going to market!
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Post by railtechnician on Nov 28, 2007 5:15:52 GMT
Transmitton has gradually been gaining a foothold at LU. The District Line WARS is their equipment and Neasden controls JLE with Transmitton SCADA kit. I had a day's training at their Leicestershire manufacturing facility in 2002. A very modern place with a high level of ambience in a really clean and spacious working environment. |
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Post by superteacher on Nov 28, 2007 16:16:09 GMT
I wouldn't alway go with the opinions of the Train Operators! That's like asking the cattle if they like going to market! I quite agree - but it's interesting to hear their views in terms of the ability (or lack of ability) of control room staff. I have heard them speak very highly of some controllers actually. But when you hear comments such as "the service is stuffed because Mr. So and So is on duty" surely speaks volumes about the difference in ability of some staff. |
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Post by happybunny on Nov 28, 2007 16:43:37 GMT
I think they should replace Emma with that man who recorded "ALL CHANGE PLEASE THIS TRAIN TERMINATES HERE" on the Jubilee line trains!
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Post by railtechnician on Nov 28, 2007 18:11:39 GMT
I've just been looking at her website and listening to the spoof messages which I found to be quite harmless and mildly funny. The trouble these days is that the media is too powerful and people are far too sensitive. We could do worse than sweep away the beeper sentex and replace it with honest to goodness humour! Apparently Emma Clarke will do quite well from the situation created by misplaced journalism as the free global advertising has been rewarded with offers from around the world!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2007 19:50:04 GMT
Time to bring back Janet Mayo!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2007 21:42:03 GMT
Here here!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 20:19:01 GMT
I think Shouty Man was best at Leicester Square NB Northern... And, Mr Mind The Gap [Embankment]. You need a voice with stern, authoritive tones, not impassive pleading.
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Post by Tomcakes on Nov 29, 2007 21:48:44 GMT
"Please, if it doesn't put you out too much, would you mind minding the gap?"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 21:51:42 GMT
Which is better;
Female voice: "Would passengers please stand on the right whilst on the escalators"
Male Voice [deep]: "Stand on the right, whilst using the escalators"
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Post by ongarparknride on Nov 30, 2007 0:44:28 GMT
From developing news, it seems Ms Emma might be well advised NOT to take up any offers from the Sudan Metro.
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Post by Rich32 on Nov 30, 2007 0:57:45 GMT
Which is better; Female voice: "Would passengers please stand on the right whilst on the escalators" Male Voice [deep]: "Stand on the right, whilst using the escalators" Definitely shouty man (I'm thinking of 'Mind The Gap' on N/B Bakerloo at Waterloo). Authoritative, not nicey, nicey is needed and, indeed, more basic English is better for the significant amount of users whose first language is not English. The flowery female versions has too many words. |
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Post by ongarparknride on Nov 30, 2007 1:51:10 GMT
Fair comments rich32.
However taking your comment about users whose first language is not English, perhaps a bit of lateral thinking called for? "Mind" and "Gap" are unlikely to be meaningful to foreign language speakers. Whereas, some words are more universally identified such as "Attention", further if the white light bulbs were replaced with red light bulbs in the sub-platform illumination, that might inspire a more universal implication of Danger?
Further, whilst initially more expensive but saving in maintenance and electricity consumption, a small platform modification could be carried out on the busiest stations where foreign visitors are first most likely to travel.
Grind and cut away about 1/2 an inch of the platform edge depth, about 6" wide, and fit green LED's covered with durable translucent resin or "plastic" strips to restore the flat surface.
That way, an alighting passenger sees a red illuminated hole or gap area, then a green area that hopefully and logically suggests they need to take a bit of care where they step.
Equally, although they would probably be prone to getting nicked, retro-fitting a string of RED hi-intensity wide angle LEDs to coincide with the car door lower tracks illuminated when the driver's station CCTV platform views first cut in on entering the station, would give an advance warning to most passengers prior and during alighting that they might wish to take a bit of care where they stepped. Yes ?
Just an idea...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2007 4:08:36 GMT
Whereas, some words are more universally identified such as "Attention", further if the white light bulbs were replaced with red light bulbs in the sub-platform illumination, that might inspire a more universal implication of Danger? The trouble with any red lights on a railway is that they do mean Danger - specifically, "Danger, don't drive your train past this point or else!" This is why repeater signals - the ones that can be seen on some platforms, that 'repeat' the station starter signal so that staff doing platform duties can see when the train has a signal to depart, don't have a red aspect - it's yellow. (Or amber, or orange. I can't remember which one it officially is. *g*) I assume having any red lights lying around would be a big no because of the risk of confusing drivers - either stopping the train early or subtly eroding away at the reaction of red=stop. |
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??!!!!!! - a bit of harmless fun, and something to make LU's long suffering commuters smlle.
