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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2007 8:07:15 GMT
Should a new tube line ever be created, what colour will TfL choose for the line? Its a bit of a tough one. A colour different enough to make it accessible. Could they re-colour the new overground or just choose a new shade of the former ELL underground orange?
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Post by Tubeboy on Nov 5, 2007 9:13:03 GMT
A new tube line.............err, light green, or turquoise
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2007 9:25:34 GMT
Orange is going to be the Overgrounds and I doubt it'll be used on a Tube line so as not to confuse people.
Just for refence, in the early 90s there was a mock of the Hackney-Chelsea coloured lime green.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2007 9:33:20 GMT
i was thinking beige or khaki green
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2007 17:15:31 GMT
White?
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Post by edwin on Nov 5, 2007 17:19:59 GMT
First post, but i've lurked here for a while...
If the Chelsea-Hackney line were to be built, it should be a light purple/lilac colour, as it will "match" with the rest of the lines better, a lime green would stick out like a sore thumb on the map in central London...
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Post by Chris M on Nov 5, 2007 17:24:45 GMT
I remember reading somewhere that the Fleet Line was shown on maps as lilac before it became the Jubilee Line.
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Post by c5 on Nov 5, 2007 17:29:34 GMT
I remember reading somewhere that the Fleet Line was shown on maps as lilac before it became the Jubilee Line. I've heard that lilac can't actually be used as it can't be put onto the enamal signs. How true that is I don't know! ?? Doesn't quite make sense to me!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2007 17:50:49 GMT
I have also heard that lilac can't be put onto enamel. It was definitely considered for the Victoria Line before it opened, in fact IIRC it actually appeared in lilac (under construction) on some paper maps in the 1960s.
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Post by mrfs42 on Nov 5, 2007 18:41:25 GMT
a nice gamboge would be suitable!
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Post by angelislington on Nov 5, 2007 18:50:19 GMT
Trust you, coming up with a silly name for yellowy-orange! I'd go for lilac, but then I'm a renowned purpleperson.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2007 19:00:17 GMT
I've checked "Mr Beck's Underground Map" by Ken Garland and in fact violet was the original colour for the Victoria Line (a 1962 paper map with it in this colour is shown in the book) - Harry Beck suggested lilac.
According to this book, violet was "replaced by light blue at an early stage owing to difficulties in reproducing it on vitreous enamel signage".
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Post by superteacher on Nov 5, 2007 19:11:24 GMT
How about using 2 alternating colours?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2007 19:27:48 GMT
Personally I love lime green to get on the map.
What about Gold? (an browny kinda gold)
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Post by railtechnician on Nov 5, 2007 20:13:00 GMT
My choice would be a nice deep shade of violet.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 7, 2007 14:02:35 GMT
Paris seems to cope with using a few more colours than London: www.urbanrail.net/eu/par/paris.htm (this isn't the official site) Different shades of purple and green are used effectively, all on enamelled signs too !
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Post by Ben on Nov 7, 2007 14:24:15 GMT
Essentially the colours used at the moment seem to be optimised to provide the most difference from the other colours used at the moment. If it got to the stage where london had over 20 lines/services all shown in different colours then some tweaking would have to take place. You could have three different, and obvious, shades of blue and green for example, two for orange and grey etc...
The best would probably be lime green though for the simple fact that it does stick out so much. White however, would most probably stay for NR services shown, if any. If the northern is split, the branch through the west end should stay black. Interesting how gold, as pointed out, has never been used as a colour; maybe it could become the bank branch?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2007 19:24:25 GMT
The Paris map is interesting. 14 different colours - and they don't even use black!
I think lines 3 and 9 are uncomfortably similar in colour, which is unfortunate as they cross twice and also run close together for quite a way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2007 8:50:36 GMT
The Paris map is interesting. 14 different colours - and they don't even use black! I think lines 3 and 9 are uncomfortably similar in colour, which is unfortunate as they cross twice and also run close together for quite a way. Actually, Paris has 20 lines: 14 Metro, 2 Metro bis, and 4 RER. The only ones that seem to be identical are Metro 1 and RER C, but some of the others are very close.
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Post by marcel on Dec 10, 2007 13:56:46 GMT
I had the feeling that some sort of shade of purple/violent (which would probably be the best colour for a new line since it stands out and wouldn't clash too much) has been reserved for Crossrail. As for the one after that, I think some sort of beige/khaki (like a darker version of this forum's background) would be best.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2007 14:26:06 GMT
I think this looks pretty good colourwise: Two shades of orange is definitely possible, even if the circle line does stay -unlike on this map-, and if the Chelney line will be more of a tube line I would give it a full-coloured line, whereas Crossrail can get a 3-stripe line. The green looks good I think.
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Post by edwin on Dec 10, 2007 17:56:32 GMT
I think this looks pretty good colourwise: Two shades of orange is definitely possible, even if the circle line does stay -unlike on this map-, and if the Chelney line will be more of a tube line I would give it a full-coloured line, whereas Crossrail can get a 3-stripe line. The green looks good I think. The Northern line's Charing Cross branch should remain black, as someone said, it is the main 'axis' of the tube map, along with the Central. The City branch should be purple, but then so should Chelney! as purple goes better with the Victoria, Piccadilly, Northern and Central lines which are all around the same area... Perhaps the City branch in green? That map should show Barbican and Farringdon as a single complex, the same for Moorgate and Liverpool Street...
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Post by metman on Dec 10, 2007 18:45:11 GMT
The Northern line should stay black (both branches!) They should just separate the services but have the option to use the connect at Kennington via Charing X link. The circle line should stay and be yellow of course! The Distirct Line Wimbleware service isn't a separate colour so the Northern shouldn't be. The green colour is nice though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2007 19:51:14 GMT
That map was a complete verison of all the proposed plans on a map. This includes Crossrail, Hackney-Chelsea and the Northern line split.
Hackney-Chelsea has always planned to be green (tho I couldn't get the right one so I settled for that colour). The reason why the City branch retains it black colour is the fact that its part of the original Tube line so I thought it deserved to keep its colour. Later maps Ive done have the Crossrail as a line with white middle just like the Overground and DLR.
Just to note there has been more than one orange on the map at once. The Overground and ELL have two seperate oranges with the Overground's being slightly darker.
As for the Barbican/Farringdon complex, the above map is an early draft I did. Theres alot more issues with that map, no least that the T-Cup won't replace the Hammersmith & City or the Circle. If anyone else wants to see the London Connections map as it should look come 2020 just message me as Ive recently finished one. Although the soon to be happening zonal changes wreck that! Grrrr.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2007 12:28:31 GMT
Just a note that a greeny gold works really well on the maps! Ive added a line in that colour to the connections maps and it looks fine colour wise.
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Post by Alight on Dec 26, 2007 14:10:02 GMT
I remember reading somewhere that the Fleet Line was shown on maps as lilac before it became the Jubilee Line. I agree Lilac/mauve colour in contrast to the dark magenta of the met. Gold is another rather naf posibility. I remember Nicholas Crane on map man using a "bottle green" for his fantasy line...Personally another shade of green isn't a good idea as the District lines uses a very moderate shade which is not too dark, not too light; unlike a good contrast in the vic and picc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2007 1:45:58 GMT
I remember reading somewhere that the Fleet Line was shown on maps as lilac before it became the Jubilee Line. I agree Lilac/mauve colour in contrast to the dark magenta of the met. Gold is another rather naf posibility. I remember Nicholas Crane on map man using a "bottle green" for his fantasy line...Personally another shade of green isn't a good idea as the District lines uses a very moderate shade which is not too dark, not too light; unlike a good contrast in the vic and picc. A really bright green (bright lime) works very well as well as a pinky purple!
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Post by Ben on Dec 27, 2007 3:54:21 GMT
The great thing about the districts current green is precisely that its not too dark or light; a dark green and a light green can thus both be added.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2007 8:21:43 GMT
My choice would be a nice deep shade of violet. violet Line hmm but where to run it
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Post by Alight on Dec 27, 2007 10:19:12 GMT
The great thing about the districts current green is precisely that its not too dark or light; a dark green and a light green can thus both be added. true.
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