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Post by maxtube on May 14, 2008 16:50:31 GMT
Does anybody have Marcel's Victoria Line add-on? I do, and it's definitely worth the £5 you pay for it! The stations look brilliant, with working monitors at the end of the platform, plus the trains have a DVA you can play! The cab that comes with the add-on is in fact C stock, but a replacement '67 stock cab can be downloaded from www.train-sim.com. The doors can be operated too. There is no passenger view, however, and the train's exterior doesn't look too good, but you're underground anyway! It's a great add-on, I highly recommend it. A Northern Line one is in production. However, on some activities, it starts with objects colliding. One way to fix this is delete the Traffic Patterns for those activities. Is there a better way to cure this error?  www.underground-sim.ch |
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Post by astock5000 on May 14, 2008 19:43:39 GMT
I have it, and have never had that error.
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Post by maxtube on May 14, 2008 21:02:38 GMT
Are you sure? On mine, when I try 'Driver's Duty Evening Part 1', right at the beginning of the activity an error message comes up saying 'This activity starts with objects colliding, which is prohibited.' Is it possible you could send me the traffic patterns from your install?
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Post by astock5000 on May 15, 2008 15:34:14 GMT
I'll try that activity, and if it does work, I'll try to send the traffic patterns.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2008 23:21:23 GMT
Does anybody have Marcel's Victoria Line add-on? I do, and it's definitely worth the £5 you pay for it! The stations look brilliant, with working monitors at the end of the platform, plus the trains have a DVA you can play! The cab that comes with the add-on is in fact C stock, but a replacement '67 stock cab can be downloaded from www.train-sim.com. The doors can be operated too. There is no passenger view, however, and the train's exterior doesn't look too good, but you're underground anyway! It's a great add-on, I highly recommend it. A Northern Line one is in production. However, on some activities, it starts with objects colliding. One way to fix this is delete the Traffic Patterns for those activities. Is there a better way to cure this error? www.underground-sim.chi was gonna get the Victoria Line but paypal dont like me  |
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Post by glasgowdriver on May 16, 2008 21:17:04 GMT
i have it well worth the money the sounds get annoying after a while tho
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Post by maxtube on May 18, 2008 15:15:17 GMT
i have it well worth the money the sounds get annoying after a while tho Haha, the sounds can get annoying, but at least it has announcements! Plus, there is a rattling noise like in real life, unlike the default MSTS run sounds, which are like drums! |
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Post by alstom1996 on May 19, 2008 23:33:33 GMT
Good someone else that agrees with me! I have never liked the msts track noises, and I don't find the Victoria's much better, especially as it seems that there is people talking on a continuous loop  . Regarding the Northern Line, he hasn't touched it in about 3 years now. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2008 10:51:40 GMT
I've had the Vic line for a while now and have enjoyed many a driving experience in the sim trying to stop on the mark. I too had the problem with the activites starting with objects colliding. So i opened up each activity in the activity editor to find out what the problem was, couldn't find any so re-saved and tried to run the activity again and hey presto, it worked. No colliding objects. Strange one that.
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Post by maxtube on May 20, 2008 14:50:33 GMT
Good someone else that agrees with me! I have never liked the msts track noises, and I don't find the Victoria's much better, especially as it seems that there is people talking on a continuous loop . Regarding the Northern Line, he hasn't touched it in about 3 years now. The run sounds on the BVE overground sections (on tube routes) sound like somebody bouncing on a trampoline, with a faint VERA Dva saying 'The next station is...' |
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Post by astock5000 on May 20, 2008 16:06:50 GMT
Are you sure? On mine, when I try 'Driver's Duty Evening Part 1', right at the beginning of the activity an error message comes up saying 'This activity starts with objects colliding, which is prohibited.' Is it possible you could send me the traffic patterns from your install? I never had that error because I never did that activity. Maybe you could just edit the traffic pattern. I don't think the sounds are annoying, although anyone else who is in the room at the time does! But that's probably because they're trying to do something else. The last update about their Northern line route was over 2 years ago. www.underground-sim.ch/favorite2.htm |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2008 12:36:38 GMT
I did e-mail Marcel shortly after buying the Victoria line to congratulate him an an excellent piece of work and asked how the Northern Line was progressing. He said that due to the lack of interest in the Victoria Line and the fact he was now working on another commercial project that took all his time he would not be continuing with the Northern Line. Shame really. This has been one of the best MSTS addons ever.
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Post by astock5000 on May 21, 2008 16:09:07 GMT
Someone needs to do a better 67TS for the MSTS Victoria line, and maybe the 09TS.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2008 16:55:45 GMT
you need to download darrens cabs they are brilliant
also there is a new 67 being made
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Post by astock5000 on May 21, 2008 17:59:12 GMT
I have downloaded the cabs, but the rest of the train needs replacing (apart from the sounds). I know someone was doing a 67TS, but it looked as if it was based on the 73TS, and isn't the 73TS longer than the 67?
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Post by maxtube on May 22, 2008 18:08:53 GMT
I did e-mail Marcel shortly after buying the Victoria line to congratulate him an an excellent piece of work and asked how the Northern Line was progressing. He said that due to the lack of interest in the Victoria Line and the fact he was now working on another commercial project that took all his time he would not be continuing with the Northern Line. Shame really. This has been one of the best MSTS addons ever. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...  The Vic line add-on rules! I hope to be making a Jubilee Line for MSTS once I get used to the route editor. It may feature: Realistic tunnel sounds DVA A 1996 stock train (otherwise you must use the one off of UKTS.) |
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Post by astock5000 on May 22, 2008 18:16:27 GMT
Exactly what I thought. I hope to be making a Jubilee Line for MSTS once I get used to the route editor. It may feature: Realistic tunnel sounds DVA A 1996 stock train (otherwise you must use the one off of UKTS.) Also including the old Charing Cross platforms as well as the extension? |
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Post by maxtube on May 22, 2008 18:20:01 GMT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... The Vic line add-on rules! I hope to be making a Jubilee Line for MSTS once I get used to the route editor. It may feature: Realistic tunnel sounds DVA A 1996 stock train (otherwise you must use the one off of UKTS.) Also including the old Charing Cross platforms as well as the extension? Yes! In fact, I may make two 'sets' of activities, one with 1983/1972 stock into Charing Cross, and one with 1996 stock into Stratford. I might make another line, perhaps the Circle, first though (including Hammersmith branch for the depot). |
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Post by astock5000 on May 22, 2008 18:23:50 GMT
You might have a problem with the Circle line, because MSTS doesn't like circles. Also, I think someone needs to do LU routes for Rail Simulator as MSTS is very old now.
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Post by maxtube on May 22, 2008 18:27:52 GMT
You might have a problem with the Circle line, because MSTS doesn't like circles. Also, I think someone needs to do LU routes for Rail Simulator as MSTS is very old now. In that case, you shall have to wait and see, while I decide on a suitable route! If anyone can help me with the construction of MSTS LU routes, please let me know. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2008 20:32:07 GMT
I have now purchased 3D Canvas Pro and will be building 3D cabs for Rail Simulator which can also be used for MSTS.
We already have Sarah Siddons in the pipeline and a new rendition of the1938 tube stock. Hopefully my R49 cab will convert from gmax to 3DC so i can do an RS version of that aswell.
I think people who have the time for route building are hard to find. I dont know where Eddie, Jimi and Mark our District Line builders get theirs from. Cab building is a full time job in itself so i leave the route building to those guys.
One problem i have is that while i can create cabs in 3DC i can't even try them in RS because my computer is so damm old and slow it wont run it. Time to put some superglue on the CPU cooling fan.
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Post by DrJimi on May 22, 2008 21:19:19 GMT
I wish whoever attempts building a LUL route in KRS the best of luck. I tried for a while, and gave up in frustration. Applying terrain DEM data and applying markers is easy. Laying track to the correct grades and locations is not. You would think that using a spline-type track would be easier than laying discrete sections - not in my experience. I have 6 years of MSTS route building skill, but that didn't help at all using KRS. Different paradigm. The KRS signaling and pathing is also somewhat dysfunctional, and both those are critical for a LUL route. So I'm going to lay off from KRS for a while yet, until the bugs are worked out and the available toolset begins to match what we have for MSTS.
Re the Vic line - I shuddered when first driving the stock, as I recognized the controls and physics as being those I gave to Marcel a lot of years ago. Long before I really knew what I was doing with regards to realistic physics and control systems. Right now, the best option is to use the unrefurb 73TS. We got that one very realistic, and it feels right on the route. There is an updated 67TS coming out from Mark, which will contain our latest controls and physics/lighting/sounds package. It will be released as part of our in-progress LUL stocks upgrade. Met #12 will also be out soon (honest Darren - I am working on bolting it all together :-)
Max - if you're seriously considering creating a LUL route, I suggest you take a look at the Underground forum on UKTS. There's a pinned topic on creating LUL routes that I started a while ago. Lots of info in there, including sources of data, tools needed, etc.
Incidentally, the next release of the District (in development - again, many related posts on UKTS) will include the Circle and the H&C roads to HAMS depot, the WIM road and as far east as Aldgate (for now). All built with our new custom LUL UKFS 4-rail track. This LUL track pack will be available in the not-too-distant future as an add-on kit for UKFS for anyone who wants to build LUL routes.
Best, Jimi
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Post by astock5000 on May 23, 2008 15:11:04 GMT
Incidentally, the next release of the District (in development - again, many related posts on UKTS) will include the Circle How are you going to avoid the problem that MSTS has with circles? Also, it would be good to have Met. trains running between Baker Street and Aldgate, if anyone wants to do A stock for MSTS. |
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Post by astock5000 on May 23, 2008 15:14:15 GMT
new rendition of the1938 tube stock. Will the 59TS be updated? On one version of the MSTS 59 (I think the EP one), the message at the bottom of the screen showing what you are doing with the brakes doesn't come up. |
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Post by DrJimi on May 23, 2008 21:15:26 GMT
Circles can be done - but very carefully. What MSTS can't tolerate is a path that leads back to a start marker. If the 'circle' can be interrupted so this doesn't happen, it's quite happy. There are countless sets of points throughout the real Circle line that at any point in time may be set to diverge. What we'll do is ensure that a complete circle can not happen as the track paths in activities have their route set in real time (usually about 2 signals ahead, depending on other traffic). Trust me - it's do-able.
Re the '59, I'm currently updating all our LUL stocks to our latest 'traction lighting and controls package' which leverages all the MSTS BIN V1.08 features. The 'new' released R49 has this, and the updated C69 is about to be released. They will all be released over a fairly short period of time and in no particular order. Darren's reference to the '38 was regarding him developing yet another even more detailed 3D cab which will also be usable on KRS locos. There's even still a few stocks for MSTS that might get done - personaly I'd love to see a 'Q' with clerestory roofs. And the new 09 SSL and TS might be interesting.
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Post by astock5000 on May 24, 2008 9:19:43 GMT
Will the updated C69/77 have H&C destinations?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2008 6:50:30 GMT
Hey! just pay for Victoria Line last night anyone no how long dose it takes for them to get back to you i wanna play it *stamps feet*  |
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Post by maxtube on Jun 7, 2008 10:14:42 GMT
Hey! just pay for Victoria Line last night anyone no how long dose it takes for them to get back to you i wanna play it *stamps feet* I can't quite remember, but I think about 4-6 days? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2008 10:21:43 GMT
Hey! just pay for Victoria Line last night anyone no how long dose it takes for them to get back to you i wanna play it *stamps feet* I can't quite remember, but I think about 4-6 days? OMG! i guess im gonnahave to wiat then thanks Max. |
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Post by maxtube on Jun 7, 2008 10:55:23 GMT
I can't quite remember, but I think about 4-6 days? OMG! i guess im gonnahave to wiat then thanks Max. You think that's bad? I had to wait 3 weeks for an MSTS route from the US! 'til your copy of the Vic arrives, there are videos on youtube to whet your appetite! |
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