LONDON UNDERGROUND OBSCURE WORKINGS

That's all correct!
I'll try and leave the shorthand out !

Train 205 (MF) Train 204 (So)
0507 Edgware Road (25 sdg) to Gloucester Road 0517½ (Ety Edgware Road to Paddington then in service to Gloucester Road)
0522½ Gloucester Road to Outer Rail Circle



I think there is some confusion arising between Aldgate and Aldgate East Stations. Looking at your listing then under the heading 'District and Hammersmith & City Lines' Aldgate should be changed to Aldgate East. This entry would then be correct.

Referring to the later Aldgate entry and the statement that the service hasn't started at the times quoted I suspect this all refers to the Aldgate entry found under the heading 'Hammersmith & City and Circle Lines' and in particular to the 0022½ SuO Aldgate to Hammersmith. When I originally quoted the times of these trains I followed the convention established by the working timetable of regarding this train as running in the Sunday Traffic Day but it actually runs in the early hours of Monday morning.



Again this comes out of the confusion between Aldgate East and Aldgate stations. The Aldgate listed below the heading 'Hammersmith & City and Circle Lines' does correctly refer to Aldgate Station while, as mentioned above, the one below the heading ' District and Hammersmith & City Lines' should refer to Aldgate East.
The correct directions at Aldgate Station are Inner Rail (towards Liverpool St) and Outer Rail (towards Tower Hill) Once a train has left Aldgate in either direction it may also be regarded as a Westbound train.

Few changes to Pt Pleasant Jnc...

2L10 0454 Basingstoke - London Waterloo SuX
2K77 0042 London Waterloo - Strawberry Hill
1B01 0105 London Waterloo - Southampton Central

Compiled from TRUST & WTT 133

Yes the early AM trains run empty to NOG,pick up train crew then deposits them on staff halt,then empty to Stratford,pick up passengers WB.In the PM it's reversed,passenger to Stratford, staff to NOG,empty back to Statford,then stable.

Thanks for the input!

North Greenwich is known as NOG, everyone refers to it as that and even the diagram in Neasden Control Room has NOG on it. It is made up of the first two letters of the station names first word, and then the first letter of the second - so Canons Park for example is CAP. Stations with one word just use the first three letters and three - worded stations use the initials.

Off on a tangent it's a bit like that on the Met. Baker St is sometimes known as Baker, Gt Portland St - GPS, Liverpool St- The Street

"John" posted a note omn another forum:

This afternoon I covered these two one train a day routes. The 1550 Streatham Hill to London Bridge is the only train round the 'Leigham Spur' and the 1650 Moorgate to Gordon Hill is the only train into the bay at the latter. Both trains were on time and did what they were expected to do! Later at Moorgate SSL platforms a Hammersmith & City line train (number 204) terminated in platform 3 bay and then returned to Edgware Road. How normal is this ? Having realised I'd missed the 1900 from Paddington I hung around at Barbican to see if anything else was terminating at Moorgate, but nothing was showing so I left in time to catch the 1930 home.

My query is about the Moorgate reverser?

Apart from 2 trains late at night, who are booked to run to Moorgate bay detrain and run empty to Farringdon sidings and stow. There are no other trains scheduled to run there during the day. However, these bay roads are used everyday with unscheduled reversers.

IE:

If there is a problem with the e/b district -H&C trains reverse at Moorgate and generally make their own working for moorgate w/b (unless there is a plan for them to be reformed at ERD)

A late running O/R will be turned at Moorgate to make its own working again for ERD.

A late running I/R will possibly be diverted to Hammersmith to return to Moorgate bay for its own working, or it will be turned at ERD to go to Moorgate for its own.

Essentially, these bay roads are used to eliminate late running, and are a great aid in service recovery.

HTH