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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2005 6:35:18 GMT
........And I thought the ELL would have about 15 - 20 drivers. Never mind.
I did think about this afterwards, I thought that 7 trains, running for an average of 18 hours a day would have at least 3 full shifts allocated to it, at 6 hours to allow for breaks (I know duties are not worked out like this but it is only for estimation purposes), so that's 21 duties, plus 'snips' at a total guess another 5 - 10 duties, then night turns, erm...1 - 2 duties, then staff for the changeover 1 - 2 duties, allowances for driver cover while staff come from or to the depot, another duty and as you say Dave, Spares, Holiday, Training etc so another rough guess allowing for other things as well there's around 30 - 40 duties on the line, and with rest days and everything else I can see where the number would be over 100
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Post by Colin on Dec 17, 2005 5:38:33 GMT
Blowing the cobwebs off this one, I have had an oppourtunity to peruse (but not keep  ) the East London line roster and duties. They have 44 drivers working 31 duties monday - friday, 20 duties on saturdays and 22 duties on sundays. They book on/off at New Cross depot, cover all the stock transfers to Neasden and meal breaks are taken at Shadwell. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2005 18:31:19 GMT
In the above thread I wrote  Blowing the cobwebs off this one, I have had an oppourtunity to peruse (but not keep ) the East London line roster and duties. They have 44 drivers working 31 duties monday - friday, 20 duties on saturdays and 22 duties on sundays. They book on/off at New Cross depot, cover all the stock transfers to Neasden and meal breaks are taken at Shadwell. 44 drivers - I don't think I'm going to get employed by LU sheduling any time soon  but that is a very interesting post Colin, I'm surprised that breaks are at Shadwell, I always thought Surrey Quays was the place where all that went on. BTW was SQ used for meal breaks / bookng on in previous years? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2005 18:40:56 GMT
In fact Colin could you reproduce an example (mock up not real) ELL duty? I know you couldn't keep the rosters but a rough one off the top of your head would be really interesting |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2005 22:34:03 GMT
Why do trains stop at New Cross AND New X Gate?? Explain how the rosters are sorted out... am confused. - Could be due to the rather large amount of beer i had earlier though.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2005 22:45:16 GMT
I *think* it is because they are on different NR lines, so provide interchange to different services.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2005 23:53:50 GMT
What I've got on my station list on my site, is:
New Cross / New Cross Gate (as termini) ..... any way i could put these into some sort of order?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2005 5:11:02 GMT
I *think* it is because they are on different NR lines, so provide interchange to different services. Correct. New X Gate is on the South Central trains service, with services including Caterham/Tattenham Corner, South London Line, Sutton via Forest Hill etc. New X provides connection to South Eastern trains going to places such as Dartford (via Blackheath & Woolwich, Sidcup or Bexleyheath), Orpington and in some cases Gravesend and Gillingham |
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Post by Colin on Dec 18, 2005 7:11:38 GMT
In fact Colin could you reproduce an example (mock up not real) ELL duty? I know you couldn't keep the rosters but a rough one off the top of your head would be really interesting As it happens I got to keep it afterall!! All I have is the bare bones, not the details - an example can be found here. Please note that this is not necessarily a current version!! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2005 7:35:15 GMT
Cheers Colin Well demonstrated. That no.10 duty looks nice, an hour off at Neasden and then another hour break 'back home'. Cool |
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Post by q8 on Dec 18, 2005 9:52:50 GMT
Surrey Quays used to be the booking on point for ELL trains crews as the SM was there then. Meal releifs were taken at Whitechapel in the same room as the H&C crews or in the 'shed' at New Cross depot.
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) the East London line roster and duties.
but that is a very interesting post Colin, I'm surprised that breaks are at Shadwell, I always thought Surrey Quays was the place where all that went on. BTW was SQ used for meal breaks / bookng on in previous years? 
