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Post by Christopher J on Jul 27, 2005 2:14:38 GMT
Yesterday I noticed that the H&C had started to run a Shuttle service between Barking and Baker Street. One question I have is where do these shuttle services reverse at Baker Street? AFAIK reversing cannot be done in the Circle Platforms (but I may be wrong) so do the shuttles reverse in the Met platforms or run empty out of service to Edgware Road and reverse there before coming back down eastbound to Baker Street for the run back to Barking? Answers appreciated.  |
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Post by q8 on Jul 27, 2005 2:31:27 GMT
No Chris you can reverse from the Inner rail Circle platform at Baker St. I don't know the crossing number but Citysig or Harsig will soon tell us I hope.
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Post by citysig on Jul 27, 2005 8:20:32 GMT
Yes they do all reverse in Platform 6 (the inner-rail platform). There is a crossover just to the east of Baker Street Junction, that allows us to reverse west-east or east-west (or even south-north, north-south!!). The limited shuttle service is formed of 4 trains all doing the following: Barking Sidings to Baker Street - reverse via Platform 6 Baker Street to Whitechapel - reverse via bay road Whitechapel to Baker Street - again reverse in platform 6 Baker Street to Barking Sidings and stable. I am sure our resident train ops will consider that a bit of a rough turn  ;D Edgware Road is not yet open even for signalled empty stock moves. The plan is that it will re-open (for empty stock moves only) shortly, and to passengers from next Tuesday (2nd August). But don't quote me on that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2005 9:05:43 GMT
from what i hear from a fellow t/o(aet) the signalling around edgware road is gonna be tested at the weekend by using a empty stock moves this will also allow the rails to be cleaned ( as the last time i was at HSK the outer rail platform was red with rust ) and that was 3 weeks ago now
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Post by Tom on Jul 27, 2005 11:42:28 GMT
They're out functional testing the western side of the circle (Edgware Rd - Sth Ken) in the next day or so. I helped get the test prints ready last night.
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Post by citysig on Jul 27, 2005 15:01:43 GMT
Edgware Road signal cabin re-opens this evening and testing will commence using some empty stock moves and (the plan is) the current shuttle service on the west end of the H&C will be extended to Edgware Road (empty) to test. The District are planning to resume to Edgware Road on Friday, but again, don't plan your journey that way.
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Post by Admin Team on Jul 27, 2005 19:45:24 GMT
Edgware Road signal cabin re-opens this evening and testing will commence using some empty stock moves and (the plan is) the current shuttle service on the west end of the H&C will be extended to Edgware Road (empty) to test. The District are planning to resume to Edgware Road on Friday, but again, don't plan your journey that way. Our Health & Safety reps were around Earls Court late this morning asking around amongst drivers if they had any reservations or concerns about the service being resumed. They were then off to a meeting to discuss the re-introduction of the service and, I presume, the same for the Circles/H & C too. I've just check TfL's web site, but there's no announcement there yet though. |
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Post by citysig on Jul 28, 2005 12:36:11 GMT
I've just check TfL's web site, but there's no announcement there yet though. That's probably because most of it has fallen through, mostly as a result of staffing issues, but also due to rolling stock availability. I did say don't quote me on it |
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Post by Admin Team on Jul 28, 2005 14:58:38 GMT
I was talking with out TOM this morning, and he was expecting that an announcement would be made at about midday today.
But it looked possible that it would only be the District that would restart tomorrow anyway, as *apparently* the Edgware Road TOM has given all his T/Ops a Rest Day tomorrow.
I bet the Powers That Be will be well impressed by that.....
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Post by citysig on Jul 29, 2005 8:32:20 GMT
I was talking with out TOM this morning, and he was expecting that an announcement would be made at about midday today. But it looked possible that it would only be the District that would restart tomorrow anyway, as *apparently* the Edgware Road TOM has given all his T/Ops a Rest Day tomorrow. I bet the Powers That Be will be well impressed by that..... I think there is quite a lot of "political" thinking and acting going on (some of it justified, some not.) I won't elaborate here. The media is already to return to selective hearing and have every driver hung. At least the District is going ahead (though I haven't checked the travel news yet...) As for these midday announcements. My managers have been told at least a dozen times in the past week that if the SCC doesn't know which timetable is to be used before midday of the day prior to operating it, the system is unlikely to accept the loading of the timetable. It can have serious consequences for any part of our controlled area, in that nothing will get signalled. So whilst high noon looks good to everyone else, having that extra hour in bed could end up crushing any plans they announce. |
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Post by q8 on Jul 29, 2005 8:38:59 GMT
Tell me, while all this regretable kerfuffle has been going on, has the timekeeping on the District main improved without the old "roundabouts" running?
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Post by trainopd78 on Jul 29, 2005 9:43:48 GMT
Tell me, while all this regretable kerfuffle has been going on, has the timekeeping on the District main improved without the old "roundabouts" running? With no circles, Ive almost forgotten what a red looks like!! I've been pretty much on time throughout, even running 2 mins EARLY during the evening peak on one occasion.  Don't bring em back!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by citysig on Jul 29, 2005 10:29:09 GMT
With no circles, Ive almost forgotten what a red looks like!! I've been pretty much on time throughout, even running 2 mins EARLY during the evening peak on one occasion. Don't bring em back!!!!!!!!! Good to know ECT are regulating as per usual. I feel sorry for the passengers who have a reduced service, and then when they turn up for it, it's either cancelled or gone early. Despite being "out of loop" at present as far as the District is concerned, we have noticed the odd early runner and quite a few gaps on the monitors. Of course, being out of the loop means we don't know the whole story, but a busy platform speaks volumes. On the other hand, and speaking now as a staff member, the current service pattern has been very relaxing. We've had shifts where we've almost drowned in tea, as there has been little else to do. I agree, don't bring em back!!! |
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Post by Dmitri on Jul 29, 2005 10:37:27 GMT
I agree, don't bring em back!!! Drill them their own tunnel and leave them to their own devices . |
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Post by citysig on Jul 29, 2005 14:07:12 GMT
As it's related to this thread I thought I would let you all know the following (some of which has been published / planned in advance.)
There is no H&C (shuttle) service between Paddington and Hammersmith from today until Tuesday (2nd August.) This is due to the planned engineering work in connection with the White City Project.
Saturday and Sunday will see no service south of Wembley Park on the Met.
With no Circle Line running, it doesn't take long to work out that there will be no service at all in the City area of the Circle on Saturday and Sunday.
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Post by banana on Jul 29, 2005 14:26:03 GMT
What is "the White City Project"? Is this the large development at White City or a railway-oriented improvement?
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Post by Tom on Jul 29, 2005 17:16:19 GMT
It's the large development, but it has implications on the railway.
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Post by banana on Jul 29, 2005 21:56:31 GMT
But does it have any benefits? Or just "implications" (i.e. closures) |
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Post by solidbond on Jul 29, 2005 23:22:01 GMT
Depends on what you mean by benefits. If you think that a new station on the H&C at Wood Lane is a benefit, then, yes there are benefits. Needless to say, there will also be closures to allow the necessary work to be carried out to replace bridges and build the new station.
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