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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2008 8:41:26 GMT
South Kensington was unusual before its rebuilding.
The deep level (Picc) platforms are on two levels, a relic of a plan to have an express tube line parallelling the District to Mansion House. In the days when they were served by lifts, the lifts had two low-level stops, which totally confused some passengers, including my grandmother.
And there were four platforms at surface level, a relic of the fact that the Met built from Baker Street to South Ken and the District built from Hammersmith to Mansion House. In the 1950s, the two northern platforms were used by Circle trains and the two southern ones by District. The junction between District and Circle was just east of South Ken.
This arrangement of platforms was fine if you were heading west, but a pain for those heading east as there was no way of knowing which platform would have the first eastbound train. And the first to arrive was not always the first to depart, as a train on one line might be held to allow a train on the other line to go first.
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Post by Tomcakes on Mar 14, 2008 11:18:42 GMT
Haymarket station was extended with a new platform the other year, but it was opposite platform 1. So what did they call it?
"The next train to depart from platform zero is the xx:xx Scotrail service to Glasgow Central. Calling at Slateford, Wester Hailes, Kingsknowe, Curriehill..."
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Post by Chris M on Mar 14, 2008 12:38:38 GMT
Cardiff Central has a platform 0 as well.
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Post by ruislip on Mar 14, 2008 18:08:52 GMT
I would say the Circle/H&C/Met platforms at Kings Cross. The island platform layout is somewhat freaky, given that most stations on the Circle have side platforms. I also recall Shepherds Bush on the Central having a wide space where you could see the other platform. I don't remember if this was at the west or east end.
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Post by Chris M on Mar 14, 2008 18:19:35 GMT
Shepherd's Bush Central Line station is basically a V-shaped island platform pointing east. At the east end there is an open space, at the west end its arranged like a conventional tube station centre platform with connecting passages between the platforms.
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Post by edwin on Mar 14, 2008 22:40:17 GMT
The tunnels were extended in that station in the 30s I think, since the original running tunnels were close together, the two station bores overlap and are supported by columns in the centre, much like some Moscow Metro stations...
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Post by SE13 on Mar 16, 2008 8:12:42 GMT
Lincoln Central has Platforms 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 with no platforms 1 or 2. And 5, 6 and 7 are the "through" lines.
Although it's not particularly odd in design, it's the numbering which is strange. Apparently platforms 1 and 2 did exist at one time, they are supposed to be buried under the carpark on the North side of the station.
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Post by compsci on Mar 16, 2008 8:53:00 GMT
As I was travelling home from London last night, a gentleman sitting opposite (who seemed surprised that I wasn't bored to death by railway talk) told me that Cambridge did once have a single faced platform in what is now the goods yard. This was accessed by a subway. I imagine that this subway still exists, but quite where it is and how it was accessed is a mystery. I suspect that it is also flooded.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 16, 2008 12:16:54 GMT
If we are talking non-London then I think MIRABEAU station on the Paris Metro Line10 is quite an odd. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Mirabeau_L10.jpgTrains serve only one platform, which is on a loop. Trains in the opposite direction pass through the station on an incline. As it is underground with no external reference point, your brain is confused as to what is 'level'! the platform you are on, or the incline you're looking at!
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Post by hotelinspector on Mar 16, 2008 19:38:40 GMT
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- brilliant picture..this has to win...almost model railway like.
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Post by abe on Mar 20, 2008 8:55:36 GMT
South Kensington was unusual before its rebuilding. ... And there were four platforms at surface level There were actually five (or even six) platforms at surface level. A bay platform existed on the central island, accessible from the west. Another bay platform might have existed on the south side of the southernmost side platform as well, with access from the east. I've never had confirmation of the latter, except from one (usually reliable) source, so any further information would be interesting.
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Post by stuartpalmer on Mar 20, 2008 9:11:17 GMT
If we are talking non-London then I think MIRABEAU station on the Paris Metro Line10 is quite an odd. If we're going to get international about this, Sydney Town Hall has to be my nomination. It's years since I was there, and this Wiki article describes it better than I can recall it, but the really odd part was that the escalator down to platforms 5/6 passes between the upper level platforms and tracks and feels particularly unsettling when a train is on the move. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_Hall_railway_station,_Sydney
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Post by Dmitri on Mar 20, 2008 9:19:13 GMT
Link does not work as expected due to the comma inside it . Here is a better one: Sydney Town Hall
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Post by thc on Mar 20, 2008 13:18:06 GMT
I'd like to nominate Limerick Junction... just imagine of Doncaster, Crewe or Swindon were like this! The diagram and accompanying text explains it better than I ever could. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerick_JunctionTHC
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Post by astock5000 on Mar 20, 2008 15:56:54 GMT
Lincoln Central has Platforms 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 with no platforms 1 or 2. And 5, 6 and 7 are the "through" lines. Although it's not particularly odd in design, it's the numbering which is strange. Apparently platforms 1 and 2 did exist at one time, they are supposed to be buried under the carpark on the North side of the station. Watford Junction doesn't have a Platform 5 anymore, and there is another disused platform between 10 (that used to be 11, 10 was a bay at the end of the 'new' 10) and platform 11, that is newer and is in the middle of nowhere.
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Post by ruislip on Mar 20, 2008 17:03:47 GMT
Lincoln Central has Platforms 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 with no platforms 1 or 2. And 5, 6 and 7 are the "through" lines. Although it's not particularly odd in design, it's the numbering which is strange. Apparently platforms 1 and 2 did exist at one time, they are supposed to be buried under the carpark on the North side of the station. Watford Junction doesn't have a Platform 5 anymore, and there is another disused platform between 10 (that used to be 11, 10 was a bay at the end of the 'new' 10) and platform 11, that is newer and is in the middle of nowhere. Regarding the disused Watford Junction platforms, could any of them have been used for the Bakerloo line, Croxley Green services, or St. Albans services?
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Post by thc on Mar 20, 2008 17:28:08 GMT
Platform 5 at Watford is a south-facing bay alongside platforms 1-4 that could easily be brought back into use for Euston locals (or Bakerloo or Met when they finally reach WJ).
The old Platform 11 was one of the platforms for St Albans Abbey before the trackbed leading north was removed to make way for a car park and the new Platform 11 built some distance away.
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Post by happybunny on Mar 20, 2008 18:57:53 GMT
The oddest one for me was Oxford circus. It was a very creepy night, everything seemed weird, and crazy like. I don't know.. the station just didn't seem the same! Something was odd about it.. and everything outside was too. The walls were moving and the floor seemed like the perfect chair. The platform seemed to move beneath my feet. It certainly was very very odd!! At first I thought it was haunted.. Oh wait... I think it might have been the copious amount of liquor I had consumed!!! Ha ha... happy Easter everyone!
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Post by astock5000 on Mar 26, 2008 13:03:45 GMT
The old Platform 11 was one of the platforms for St Albans Abbey before the trackbed leading north was removed to make way for a car park and the new Platform 11 built some distance away. That might not make sense (it didn't to me at first), so this should be clearer. The St Albans platforms were 10, 11 and 12. 10 was a bay and was removed, it was where the car park entrance/exit tunnel comes out. 11 is now 10 and now isn't connected to the St Albans branch. 12 has had its track removed, but the platform is still there. These platforms were replaced with a new 11, built on the yard.
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Post by thc on Mar 26, 2008 18:22:05 GMT
I knew what I meant! Thank you for putting me right astock as, irrespective of my inability to communicate, I evidently didn't have all the knowledge.
THC
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Post by ilya on Mar 27, 2008 21:39:19 GMT
If going international, for me this is South Ferry Station in New York. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Ferry_%28New_York_City_Subway%29The station is located on the loop, where only outer circle is used. The curve is really mad, so the platform has special 'gap compensators' operated by station master. When the train pauses at the station, the 'gap compensators' get to the train doors as a ladder to an airplane . Moreover, the platform serves only part of the train, some cars stop outside the platform and thus doors do not open in them.
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Post by superteacher on Apr 14, 2008 9:12:22 GMT
That is some curve - is is more curved than Bank Central line I wonder?
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Post by Oracle on Apr 14, 2008 10:55:47 GMT
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Post by loughtonsiding on Apr 14, 2008 13:49:55 GMT
The bay had an unusual feature: Watford MPD's turntable was adjacent, and a loco being turned fouled the track. Use of the turntable was therefore interlocked with the signalling, requiring an Annett's key for release. It's shown at: tinyurl.com/6mod6p
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2008 14:07:11 GMT
Pontypridd - 500m (longest in the word when built, it isn't clear whether it is still this length Ponty is interesting—as built, it consists of one single island structure with multiple bay platform faces cut into each side, making for a total of six faces (two through, and then two bays at each end). It’s still largely intact, save for several decades of neglect and everything falling apart. The ‘down’ trackbed is also partially missing as and when bridges and viaducts got too expensive to maintain… waiting there for Cardiff-bound trains is actually quite depressing, and I try to avoid it when I can. Sadly enough, the same pattern is repeated throughout most of the stations in this part of the world—Aberdare is probably the worst I’ve seen. -j
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 14, 2008 17:47:25 GMT
The curve is really mad, so the platform has special 'gap compensators' operated by station master. When the train pauses at the station, the 'gap compensators' get to the train doors as a ladder to an airplane . They need those at Clapham Junction Platform 17!
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Post by angelislington on Apr 15, 2008 22:11:30 GMT
oooo how weird is that? I must see this for real one day. I love it! It's completely mad!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 18, 2008 15:05:39 GMT
If going international, for me this is South Ferry Station in New York. The station is located on the loop, where only outer circle is used. The curve is really mad, so the platform has special 'gap compensators' operated by station master. You need to get there within the next year to see this platform in use. As under the "South Ferry Project" ( mta.info/capconstr/sft/index.html) 2 new straight platforms are currently being built, to open early-2009. Incidentally, the operation of the platform gap-closers is by the signalling and train movement. Upon arrival, the signalling detects the train has halted in the correct spot and the gap-closers operate. Upon departure, a clear signal indicates it is ready to depart, the Conductor closes the doors, gets a pilot light and the Operator gently nudges the train forward, this physically pushes the gap-closers clear. A secondary indication then illuminates to inform the Operator that they have retracted fully and it is now OK to proceed.
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Post by scorpio on Apr 19, 2008 12:56:57 GMT
High Wycombe on the Chiltern has an odd layout. Platform One which is the bay has been rebuilt with the Platform face on the car park side, Platform Two which mainly used as the "Down" but is bi directional. Platform Three is not opposite Platform Two but is located a bit further up (towards London) and is accessed via a subway from P2, a hell of a walk when you only have minutes to spare after being caught in the ticket office queue. However I think there is a daytime entrance & exit on P3. The reason why this layout exists is because the station was built in a cutting and there wasn't enough room for platforms, the platform lines and through lines as High Wycombe used to have Up & Down through roads.
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Post by superteacher on May 6, 2008 21:52:31 GMT
I've alwas thought some of the staggered platforms to be odd i.e. Embankment District and Circle. Does anyone know why they were built like that?
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