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Post by owen on Mar 11, 2008 22:29:35 GMT
been through cambridge a few time recently and the layout seems odd so i was wondering what other strange layouts there are.
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Post by Chris M on Mar 11, 2008 22:59:41 GMT
Gloucester has always struck me as an odd layout.
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Post by Tomcakes on Mar 11, 2008 23:04:39 GMT
Try Waverley!
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Post by owen on Mar 11, 2008 23:09:20 GMT
ok so why are they odd? cambridge has a long platform with a scissors crossover and two bay platforms at each end.
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Post by Tomcakes on Mar 11, 2008 23:24:53 GMT
Usually, they are odd because of historical or geographical constraints.
Waverley has 6 (IIRC) through platforms, 4 to the south and 2 to the north side. In the middle is the ticket office / concourse. Two roads go onto the station and form access to the carpark, running in one case along platform 11.
Of the through platforms, three are split in half, with different numbers and scissors Xovers, just to confuse everyone.
There are two bays at the London end of the station, and about six at the Haymarket end. To muddy the water some more, the Scottish side terminal platforms have ticket gates, whilst the English bays don't. Not that they are much good, as you can get onto the Scotch platforms via platform 19.
The combination of gradual development and tacking on new platforms means the numbering is illogical. Platform 19 is next to platform 2, for example.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 23:28:41 GMT
paddington seems strange as its staggered plus on approach you see how much of a curve there is with the fast train platfroms
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Post by metman on Mar 12, 2008 1:04:43 GMT
Keeping it LT, Stamford Brook has a strange platform layout, but that is historical! The former (current eastbound District/Picc roads) LSWR tracks didn't build platforms here, but the District railway built an island platform on their Richmond/Hownslow line. When the Picc was extended to South Harrow its trains used the middle tracks (non stopping) and LT built the (ugly?) concrete eastbound platform for the District Line trains on the former LSWR easbound (Waterloo? via Grove Road/Oylmpia) platform.
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Post by Chris M on Mar 12, 2008 2:02:49 GMT
In terms of stations LU call at, Stratford has got to have one of the oddest layouts, and I don't think it has any peers on the system when it comes to oddity of platform numbering!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2008 6:36:05 GMT
What about Borough and White City? Both have right hand running caused by being almost at the [one time] end of the line. At Borough, the tunnels had to roll the wrong way because of the original Greathead tunnels needing to be one above the other to get into King William Street station. At White City, terminating trains used a loop.
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Post by metman on Mar 12, 2008 11:05:45 GMT
White City certainly is a strange one! Perhaps Wood Lane terminal loop was the most weird, with the moveable platform end that allowed access to the depot!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2008 17:34:15 GMT
Euston city branch southbound platform is an oddity with the remnents of the northbound platform on the southern end. Piccadilly Circus is also strange, with the crossover enabling both platforms to be seen. Southgat is also another oddity where you can see daylight from a tube platform.
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Post by Ben on Mar 12, 2008 18:22:06 GMT
The rebuilt Chalfont will also be slightly odd.
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Post by metman on Mar 12, 2008 18:39:22 GMT
I'm interested to see how (if) it turns out!
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Post by owen on Mar 12, 2008 18:47:21 GMT
whats planned for chalfont then?
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Post by astock5000 on Mar 12, 2008 19:20:14 GMT
High Street Kensington is odd because of platform 4.
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Post by superteacher on Mar 12, 2008 19:22:20 GMT
Woodford is odd, since the bay platform is actually a part of the sidings!
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Post by happybunny on Mar 12, 2008 22:17:21 GMT
Kew Gardens is odd.. the only LUL station with a pub on the platform (as far as I know haven't been to them all, or even half of them)..
Woking is odd.. must be one of the longest walks from the ticket gates to a platform (the bay road they have there is miles away)
St pancras is odd.. the only station with a champagne bar on the platforms
Greenford is odd.. the only station in the UK with a wooden escalator
Colchester has the longest platform in the UK at 620m
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2008 22:53:59 GMT
Greenford is odd.. the only station in the UK with a wooden escalator Greenford is also unique in having escalators up to the platforms.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2008 23:01:43 GMT
Greenford is odd.. the only station in the UK with a wooden escalator And I believe uniquely on LU, the escalator goes up from the ticket hall to the platform. I thought North Greenwich was odd at one time - now I know it's quite normal. Canary Wharf (DLR) is interesting though.
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Post by metman on Mar 12, 2008 23:36:45 GMT
Does Marylebone still have a wooden escalators?
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Post by Chris M on Mar 12, 2008 23:37:21 GMT
I believe Greenford is the last one.
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Post by mrfs42 on Mar 13, 2008 0:53:03 GMT
St pancras is odd.. the only station with a champagne bar on the platforms Makes a change from the GnT dunnit? ;D Colchester has the longest platform in the UK at 620m I *thought* that honour belonged to Manc. Victoria with the hyooge exchange platform between the L&Y and some other northern railway company - was well over a quarter mile long.
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Post by Chris M on Mar 13, 2008 2:39:28 GMT
From Wikipedia and other sources:
Manchester Victoria and Manchester Exchange - 669m Colchester - 620m Gloucester - 602.69m Pontypridd - 500m (longest in the word when built, it isn't clear whether it is still this length Cambridge - 470m [given as 514 yards]
The longest in the world (again according to Wikipedia) is Kharagpur, West Bengal (India) - 1,024 - 1,072m (depending on the source)
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Post by owen on Mar 13, 2008 2:52:44 GMT
I'm not surprised Cambridge is that long! Walking from platform 5 to platform 2 is a mission when the fast train to Kings Cross is about to leave!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2008 7:41:55 GMT
I've always thought Barking is a bit stupid with all the flyunders and overs to get out the way of the mainline and the bay platform that I always seem to have to change ends in when it's pouring with rain.
I know it's no longer in use but every time I get held on the north curve I try to imagine what the old Aldgate East would have been like, and that strikes me as very strange.
New Cross platforms were not strangely laid out but numbered (or inthis case lettered) A,B,C,D. I always found that a bit weird.
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Post by Harsig on Mar 13, 2008 9:22:58 GMT
I know it's no longer in use but every time I get held on the north curve I try to imagine what the old Aldgate East would have been like, and that strikes me as very strange. As far as I am aware the old Aldgate East was arranged exactly as the current one is i.e. with two platforms either side of the running line immediately east of the junction. What happened to cause the station to be relocated was that the junction was moved eastwards so that it now occupies the space originally used by the platforms and consequently the station itself was moved eastwards.
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Post by metman on Mar 13, 2008 11:09:07 GMT
8 car trains used to foul the junctions either side of Aldgate when waiting to enter Aldgate East.
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Post by Chris M on Mar 13, 2008 11:18:13 GMT
New Cross platforms were not strangely laid out but numbered (or inthis case lettered) A,B,C,D. I always found that a bit weird. This is to avoid confusion with New Cross Gate. Waterloo East is "numbered" in exactly the same manner. Some stations on the NLL, e.g. Kentish Town West, are "numbered" "East" and "West"!
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Post by astock5000 on Mar 13, 2008 17:20:01 GMT
whats planned for chalfont then? I don't know, but it's probabaly something to do with the Chesham platform because there wont be 4 car S stock.
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Post by metman on Mar 13, 2008 17:26:08 GMT
platform 3 isn't long enough for S8. The idea is to rebuild platform 3 on the other side of the bay road (where another siding used to be) eating up some of the car park!
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