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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2006 19:22:21 GMT
I've had enough with Metronet screwing up my journeys, so I decided to voice my concerns with LUL on their online feedback form:
"Is there no way out of the PPP contracts for London Underground? Metronet seem to be doing a brown stuff job of looking after things, admittedly there has been an increase in reliability across some of the network but the latest failure to perform stressing maintainance should not be ignored. If they haven't done this track maintainace what else haven't they done? Is London Underground still safe to use or are Metronet going to screw it up some more?"
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2006 20:57:33 GMT
of course its safe people like me have to sign certificates when working on safety related work that it is safe and complies with lul standards and procedures IF and i do mean a BIG IF something terrible happened then he/she would be in front of a court of law worse case manslaughter
each section of track is at least checked every 2 nights (if memory serves well) and the signalling is mantained every 6 weeks havent even got a clue about the trains so cannot comment.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2006 21:40:57 GMT
worse thing that any goverment has ever done was to privatise the railways , if everything was kept in house so to speak, these delays would never have happened on a brighter note however , and speaking from inside the cab and not from inside the saloon , i am getting home earlier most evenings the tsrs are in cos the job goes tits up , my train was cancelled on three occasions this week, was told to go for next pick up, which meant, in my case, go home . i hope the temperature is even hotter tomorrow . ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Colin on May 12, 2006 1:49:46 GMT
Some of us drivers have not been so lucky - all i've had is minimum meal reliefs (literally 35 minutes), no time at terminus's and bucket loads of grief from irate passengers. Personally i'm with the passengers 110% - especially after a third day of complete chaos on the District. I'll say no more as i'm quite fed up with it all...............as will the District control room staff be when I officially complain about their imcompetence (if I decide to 'rock the boat' that is). I can't wait to go through the pain of it all again tomorow
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Post by marty on May 12, 2006 14:35:38 GMT
Why dontcha take a bitta holiday until it´s over ?
Of course I dunno the amounta holiday you gets...
I as an excutive get 1 3/4 Months off (I reallly need them, two of my colleague executives just got the sack due to some affair that falls into the category of "Something i Don´t wanna know", and so us three have to practically run our 15 side offices in Europe completely and are travelling around all the time, and when we are actually in london, we get at least 3 night shifts a week for Corresponding with our Australian+Chinese Offices!)
I´m quitting in August and I´ll see ---
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2006 12:40:42 GMT
of course its safe people like me have to sign certificates when working on safety related work that it is safe and complies with lul standards and procedures IF and i do mean a BIG IF something terrible happened then he/she would be in front of a court of law worse case manslaughter each section of track is at least checked every 2 nights (if memory serves well) and the signalling is mantained every 6 weeks havent even got a clue about the trains so cannot comment. Thanks for putting my mind at ease, but I didn't know that before, LU should probably tell that to us "customers" more often.
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Post by antharro on May 13, 2006 13:27:55 GMT
worse thing that any goverment has ever done was to privatise the railways , if everything was kept in house so to speak, these delays would never have happened While it's dead easy to blame the government for this (and many other things), in reality, a lot of what they're doing is EU-driven. I don't have the actual directives to hand at the moment, however things like regionalisation, the forced use of metric measurements (remember that guy who was all over the news for selling meat in imperial measurements?) and privatisation are all EU measures that the government (and governments before this one) have been rubber-stamping to make them as law in this country. Anyone aware of the new(ish) EU ruling that says that in a couple of years' time, right hand drive cars will not be allowed on the continent? BMW put out an ad recently advertising a new car that doesn't have a steering wheel - controlled by your eyes. If I can find it, I'll scan it and post it up here somewhere.
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Post by agoodcuppa on May 13, 2006 15:29:44 GMT
privatisation are all EU measures that the government (and governments before this one) have been rubber-stamping to make them as law in this country. Railway privatisation was not an EU directive. The EU requirement was for a seperation of the track and operations for accounting purposes. The Treasury latched on to it as a means of generating some income instead of which they've had to spend vastly more..
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Post by stanmorek on May 14, 2006 17:22:52 GMT
Adding to aetearlscourt, Her Majesty's Rail Inspectorate and LUL Chief Engineer's Directorate keep a close eye over what the Infracos are up to. Not to mention zealous Infraco Asset Engineers who enforce LUL standards and procedures and can serve improvement and prohibition notices. Basically they have the power to shut down parts of the railway if its unsafe in their opinion. It's a criminal offence to refuse to cooperate with the HMRI during an accident investigation and they can walk into any office and speak anyone or take whatever paperwork they see pertinent to their investigation. Here's a true (but very long and boring) story about a District line station in need of replacing it's rather old escaltors that kept on breaking down. Before the old escalators could be switched off and replaced the London Fire Brigade wanted in place an alternative way for passengers to cross the two side platforms. Without this the station would have to close which was unacceptable to LUL. It was therefore decided to build a temporary footbridge at the end of the platform. Sounds easy but the engineers had to sell the idea to the LUL safety people, the Group Station Manager (GSM) and the people responsible for station maintenance. Not only that, the footbridge had to be designed to the LUL standards for heavy loading and train collision impact but this was not possible due to the size of the existing platforms. Therefore a case had to be made to the Chief Engineer to grant concessions against the standards. Then the said footbridge had to be designed to fit in with the existing platform canopy structure. The canopy wasn't to be touched. If it was then a) the station would have to close to remove the asbestos from it b) the canopy would have to be rebuilt to comply with current LUL standards. Very disruptive and expensive. In order to avoid this the staircase leading up to bridge had to run through the canopy skylight. The way the canopy skylight and its supporting beams were arranged meant that the standards for minimum staircase height and width couldn't be met. So it was back to LUL to state the case for yet more concessions. On top of that because the only place where foundations of the bridge could go, the platform width would be too narrow. Cue more talks with LU. The next challenge was to check the foundations of the platform to see what work had to be done for it support the bridge. This meant digging up parts of the platform and erecting hoarding. So it was back to the GSM and LU safety people for permission. And it goes on and on...12 months of telephone calls, meetings, writing documents, arm twisting, hair pulling etc. This was before any escalators were even mentioned... ;D Forgot about the form filling in...
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Post by Tom on May 14, 2006 21:44:12 GMT
And it goes on and on...12 months of telephone calls, meetings, writing documents, arm twisting, hair pulling etc. This was before any escalators were even mentioned... ;D Forgot about the form filling in... I recognise the feeling, though my Asset Engineer isn't too bad.
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Post by Colin on May 15, 2006 2:00:27 GMT
"rear covering" springs to mind .........
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2006 5:50:01 GMT
well if metronet are doing such a great job...
Could they at least bang the 12 displaced wedges back into the chairs at Putney Bridge Platform Three...
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