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Post by Alight on Mar 11, 2008 18:29:29 GMT
I do believe when comparing TFL statistics, that Roding Valley is not only the least used station on the Central Line (surprise surprise!) at 0.198 million passengers per annum, but also the entire Underground network.
I could be wrong, but you would need to find a figure lower than 0.198 million.
I did compare to other line's least used for example Upminster Bridge (District), Ickenham (Piccadilly), Royal Oak (H&C) and Chesham (Metropolitan).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 18:37:35 GMT
That's still over 500 a day, better than quite a lot of National Rail stations.
Didn't Blake Hall famously have 6 passengers per day?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 18:42:57 GMT
Roding Valley was built in the wrong location, it would be better if it was built about 100 feet towards Woodford so it would be at at the junction, it would have become a decent interchange between the Epping and Hainault lines
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Post by cetacean on Mar 11, 2008 18:51:57 GMT
Yes it is, though it still has nothing on Chiltern Railway's Sudbury & Harrow Road, at 3,008 recorded passengers per year, and only a few trains a day.
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Post by Alight on Mar 11, 2008 18:59:36 GMT
Didn't Blake Hall famously have 6 passengers per day? Yes indeed ;D Although I do find it surprising it was as much as 6! I mean 6 a day is pretty good for it's location surely?
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Post by jamesb on Mar 11, 2008 19:12:44 GMT
I don't doubt that it is the least used station, but I wonder when the TFL figures were taken.
Since Roding Valley was moved into zone 4, subjectively it's use in the rush hours seems to have increased. In the morning, people catch specific trains. This is reflected in the increased number of cars parked (for free) along Station Way, which annoyed the local shopkeepers and residents such as my father!
Also, if the figures are collected using the Oyster card system, since there are no ticket gates installed, it is possible for people not to touch in/out. I have left the station in rush hour and only some people touch in - e.g. if they have a travelcard, or they connect with services at Stratford (and are evading the fare from RV-Stratford). The lack of gates at Roding Valley is a weakness in the system - I have been stopped only about 3 times at the station in my entire life.
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Post by Tomcakes on Mar 11, 2008 19:19:08 GMT
A station near me has 21 passengers using it... per year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 19:35:02 GMT
Barry Links, in Scotland - 6 alighted, 13 boarded. Last Years SRA stats.
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Post by Tomcakes on Mar 11, 2008 19:47:42 GMT
Ooh, it's tying with Central then!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 20:15:19 GMT
I don't doubt that it is the least used station, but I wonder when the TFL figures were taken. Since Roding Valley was moved into zone 4, subjectively it's use in the rush hours seems to have increased. In the morning, people catch specific trains. This is reflected in the increased number of cars parked (for free) along Station Way, which annoyed the local shopkeepers and residents such as my father! Also, if the figures are collected using the Oyster card system, since there are no ticket gates installed, it is possible for people not to touch in/out. I have left the station in rush hour and only some people touch in - e.g. if they have a travelcard, or they connect with services at Stratford (and are evading the fare from RV-Stratford). The lack of gates at Roding Valley is a weakness in the system - I have been stopped only about 3 times at the station in my entire life. Would be interested to also learn what year the figures were taken. The most uo-to-date I've ever seen are about 3/4 years out of date and pre-date Oyster.
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Post by Dmitri on Mar 11, 2008 21:04:18 GMT
According to the statistics page, Roding Valley got 0.179 million passengers in the 2006. Unfortunately, 2007 statistics is not available yet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 21:27:44 GMT
According to the statistics page, Roding Valley got 0.179 million passengers in the 2006. Unfortunately, 2007 statistics is not available yet. Thanks for that - Some interesting reading.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 21:52:23 GMT
According to that page, Shoreditch had... 0 !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 22:05:58 GMT
I'm sure thats on a par with Dumpton Park!
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Post by owen on Mar 11, 2008 22:16:52 GMT
why would anyone get off at dumpton park anyway? lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2008 12:39:44 GMT
Watford West, a completely closed station with no tracks, gets more passengers than Gainsborough Central, which is open. There are loads of these little quirks around the national rail network.
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Post by superteacher on Mar 12, 2008 19:18:17 GMT
Some of these stats are crazy, when you consider that the number of lines that were closed under Beeching in the 1960's. Haverhill in Suffolk is, I believe, one of the largest towns in the UK without a railway. People living there must have a wry smile when they here of stations being open with 10 passengers per year!!
It must have also been galling when the Northern line new works programme was cancelled after the war - and then the completely rural Epping to Ongar line was electrified!
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Post by owen on Mar 12, 2008 20:03:42 GMT
I think Corby is actually the largest town without a station. It was on QI a while back.
Oh and is the Watford West thing because they call a taxi for you from Watford Junction and it counts you as being a passenger to there?
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Post by Tomcakes on Mar 12, 2008 22:08:23 GMT
To be fair on Gainsborough Central, people may use it and not be counted, as many tickets are issued to "GAINSBOROUGH *", which are credited to Lea Road as the group station.
3 trains per week is pretty poor for a town centre station far more convenient than Lea Road *fume*, but it is set to increase.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2008 22:36:35 GMT
I think Corby is actually the largest town without a station. I thought it was Corby too. Although I did hear they are supposed to be getting a station soon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2008 15:53:18 GMT
And like all the Stations round the loop, ROV is now manned 24/7
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Post by oystercard on Mar 21, 2008 14:57:32 GMT
I do believe when comparing TFL statistics, that Roding Valley is not only the least used station on the Central Line (surprise surprise!) at 0.198 million passengers per annum, but also the entire Underground network. I could be wrong, but you would need to find a figure lower than 0.198 million. I did compare to other line's least used for example Upminster Bridge (District), Ickenham (Piccadilly), Royal Oak (H&C) and Chesham (Metropolitan). How can you tell that the customers for Ickenham are getting the Metropolitan line as opposed to the Piccadilly line?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2008 13:31:37 GMT
Didn't Blake Hall famously have 6 passengers per day? Back in the day, I could name all six of them!
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Post by happybunny on Mar 27, 2008 16:23:30 GMT
I do believe when comparing TFL statistics, that Roding Valley is not only the least used station on the Central Line (surprise surprise!) at 0.198 million passengers per annum, but also the entire Underground network. I could be wrong, but you would need to find a figure lower than 0.198 million. I did compare to other line's least used for example Upminster Bridge (District), Ickenham (Piccadilly), Royal Oak (H&C) and Chesham (Metropolitan). How can you tell that the customers for Ickenham are getting the Metropolitan line as opposed to the Piccadilly line? I think he was just saying that Ickenham is a Piccy line station.... in the same way that Notting Hill is a Central Line stn even though it also has Dist and Circle lines.. and Hammersmith (D&P) is a District Line station, even though it also serves the Picc!
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Post by c5 on Mar 27, 2008 16:29:10 GMT
How can you tell that the customers for Ickenham are getting the Metropolitan line as opposed to the Piccadilly line? I think he was just saying that Ickenham is a Piccy line station.... in the same way that Notting Hill is a Central Line stn even though it also has Dist and Circle lines.. and Hammersmith (D&P) is a District Line station, even though it also serves the Picc! But Ickenham is a Metropolitan line run station!
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Post by Colin on Mar 27, 2008 18:06:35 GMT
Indeed - as confirmed by the list I posted in THIS THREAD (reply #20)....
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Post by Chris M on Mar 27, 2008 19:35:09 GMT
Presumably then it means that fewer people exit at Ickenham than at any other station served by the Piccadilly Line
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Post by c5 on Mar 27, 2008 19:45:56 GMT
Presumably then it means that fewer people exit at Ickenham than at any other station served by the Piccadilly Line I'm guessing that this is done on the annual passenger survey, where they ask passengers over about 2 weeks how they travel. I think they call it the Passenger Origin [&] Destination Survey
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Post by Alight on Mar 29, 2008 20:52:05 GMT
Presumably then it means that fewer people exit at Ickenham than at any other station served by the Piccadilly Line I would have thought so.
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Post by Ben on Mar 30, 2008 1:03:20 GMT
Ickenham is pretty busy in the peaks though.
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