York Road details

I think that's fair to assume Tim, given there seems to be a lack of any photos of the station platforms while open.

The photographic evidence from other stations appears to be that while the Johnston-designed "doughnut" roundels were in common use on station platforms from the mid 1920s, this looks to have been entirely at new or refurbished stations. Many stations retained the 1908-onwards solid discs through to at least the 1940s, so York Road is most likely to have kept them until closure.



The next question is what type of disc roundels? There were several types to choose from...



This photo of King's Cross Piccadilly platform circa 1910 shows two styles which I know were also both used at Brompton Road, so appear to have been common on the line, so likely to be found at York Road.
The rear disc, positioned lower on the wall, was a metal circle attached over the tiling, and a wood-framed metal bar with the station name.
In the foreground is a rarer type, where the lower half of the circle was metal, but the upper half was painted on the tiling and plaster - remnants of one of these exist at Brompton Road. 



The painting of the upper half of the disc over the plaster and tiling is more apparent in this 1923 photo of the Hampstead tube (now Northern line) platform at Strand (now Charing Cross). Note how the lower half obscures the Leslie Green "way out" cartouche, necessitating the enamelled replacement below. Also, the high-level discs at both Strand and King's Cross have been aligned with the tiling bands that wrap over the tunnel ceiling.

Edit - it occurs to me that both high-level discs have been paired with "way out" signs below them. Perhaps the high level discs were only used when a "way out" sign was also needed in the same location? (even if that meant obscuring the Leslie Green cartouche) 



There were also disc roundels on square metal backgrounds, as here at Charing Cross (now Embankment) on the Hampstead tube in 1923. These were introduced from 1913 and used on newly built tube platforms, as at Charing Cross where the Hampstead platform opened in 1914. Thus I think this design is less likely to have been found at York Road.

That's an excellent photo Tim, not one I'd remembered seeing, though of course it's in "London's Disused Underground Stations" which was on the shelf behind me!

There's definitely a high-level disc roundel with "way out" sign below just right of the side passage in the foreground. Looks like there may be another disc roundel above a sign further back as well - just to the right of the cabinet with the bucket on top.

I'd guess the pile is sand - maybe for the fire buckets? Odd to just pile it on the platform like that though.

Or perhaps the pile of (what looks like but might not be ) sand should not have been there which might just be why the photo was taken with it being so prominent ?

I'd almost go as far as to say that is a deliberate photo of a pile of sand on a York Road platform, not a photo of York Road that happens to have a pile of sand on a platform.

I am using Plastruct / Evergreen 1mm square strip to represent tube tunnel conductor rails. This square format is the closest I've seen to to the real thing. Its white, so will need painting, perhaps dirty black or very dark grey with a dash of black and maybe even brown too. I am yet to experiment with the paint.

For your era you will not need the suicide pit.

My photo shows a trial run, I've made the support pier a little too low and the conductor rail is just 1 inch long!





edit to add, 11 days later: my photo was on Facebook but appears to have been deleted ... so apologies is no longer visible here

Having looked through the high resolution photos in the LTM archive, I think I can confirm that the blocky insulator design in your diagram was still standard through the 1920s, with the now-conventional circular style introduced later. It does appear to be consistently used on alternating sleepers, so no respite there.

There has been some progress on getting the platform board mounted under the station.

A platform view

Work continues…

Tim

The head lining and top fascia have now been completed and are nice and solid.

I have some 2mm Lighthouse LEDs which should serve as light sources. Not sure if shades will be necessary, but that is the next job.

Tim

On the topic of lampshades, some photos taken rather a long time ago which might be of interest. As far as I'm aware working 00 versions do not exist.


bulb lamp shade at Whitechapel



bulb lampshade unknown stn

Thanks for all the info. The shades are broadly what I used on the main station building: not easily seen with the lights on.
My experiment with the lighthouse LED is looking promising & robust.

Thinking of signage, I will need some WAY OUT signs. Presumably same font (but black on white) with a red surround.

Tim

The LEDs have been installed and will need a bit more tweaking - lamp shades etc. 

With the body and base of the LEDs blacked out above the ceiling, the lighting can be better controlled. 


Making a 2D representation of the lamp shades is fairly straightforward, but it might be nice to have the correct shape. Maybe they could be 3D printed in clear resin with a 2mm hole for the LED.  I’m also not sure whether or not to leave off the head wall at the western end. It would allow people to get this view. Any thoughts?


Tim

Fear not! It is being designed as open with Perspex end or a head wall in place, but again with Perspex to block the tunnel. There is a view along the track tunnel opening, but it’s not quite the same, obviously.

On the main layout, this view is quite hard to get, so the lamps themselves are quite hard to see. I think a fair number of our audience, having got down to that position, might struggle to get up again! In separate diorama form, it is displayed much higher.


Tim

Not wishing to stop the wonderful work cfmrc is doing this thread would be better off in the Modelling section .

Yes, I was thinking that last time this was active. Now moved.


The initial query was appropriate to either board (or the historical area), but the modelling area is the best place for all types of modelling.

Tim will the MRC mini exhibition at Keen House be open to the public ?