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Post by tom2506 on Sept 14, 2005 16:33:10 GMT
I know that the end-of-track lights are there to tell the driver that it is as far as he can go. But, do they actually stop the train if ti gets to near them?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2005 16:36:07 GMT
I know that the end-of-track lights are there to tell the driver that it is as far as he can go. But, do they actually stop the train if ti gets to near them? The Fix Red Lights dont, however the fixed trainstop and buffers, might aid things!
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Post by tom2506 on Sept 14, 2005 16:38:24 GMT
would there be much damage to the train if it hit the buffers?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2005 16:44:20 GMT
would there be much damage to the train if it hit the buffers? TBH, I couldnt tell you, i suppose it would depend on how fast you hit them at. Obviously the faster you wereto hoit them, the more damage you would get. Having said all that, *it* shouldnt get to that stage as if you had come in that fast you would have been tripped on the speed controlled trainstops which should stop you before 'the end', obviously not all locations have them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2005 16:46:20 GMT
On LUL, there are always speed controlled trainstops where a train in service approaches a buffer stop, plus a fixed trainstop just before the buffers. So, it would be difficult to hit the buffers at much speed.
Is there any truth in what I was told, that if you hit the red lights at olympia or triangle sidings it sets off an alarm in the control room?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2005 17:02:21 GMT
Is there any truth in what I was told, that if you hit the red lights at olympia or triangle sidings it sets off an alarm in the control room? Yes, because you operate the track circuit interupters. Quite a number of locations have them
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2005 17:03:06 GMT
I used to like to nudge the stop lights at Ongar as there was no fixed trainstop or track circuitry to inform the signalman.
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Post by trainopd78 on Sept 14, 2005 19:47:05 GMT
On LUL, there are always speed controlled trainstops where a train in service approaches a buffer stop, plus a fixed trainstop just before the buffers. So, it would be difficult to hit the buffers at much speed. Is there any truth in what I was told, that if you hit the red lights at olympia or triangle sidings it sets off an alarm in the control room? The track curcuit interrupters at Triangle go through to Gloucester road station control room.
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Post by russe on Sept 14, 2005 21:34:38 GMT
Buffer stops are usually preceded by sand drags, in the rare event any train could get close to them. I've always been surprised at the extent of the safety margin used in LT station terminating roads, which is far more generous than commonly provided on Network Rail, but the distance passengers have to walk between ticket barrier and train at Stratford Jubbly is verging on the ridiculous. Russ P.S. Here's a buffer stop in one of the sidings at Acton Town, in what I call 'poisonous snake' livery: pic: James Moorhouse
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Post by Colin on Sept 15, 2005 3:30:05 GMT
Buffer stops are usually preceded by sand drags, in the rare event any train could get close to them. I've always been surprised at the extent of the safety margin used in LT station terminating roads, which is far more generous than commonly provided on Network Rail, but the distance passengers have to walk between ticket barrier and train at Stratford Jubbly is verging on the ridiculous. Russ Better safe than sorry!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2005 9:19:31 GMT
Better safe than sorry! Yes, because you cant fit a 96ts through the manual gate! ;D
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Post by tom2506 on Sept 15, 2005 19:17:49 GMT
What is so bad about touching the end of track lights that needs an alarm to go off?
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Post by trainopd78 on Sept 15, 2005 21:09:50 GMT
Its not the lights that we worry about. They aren't alarmed. The track circuit interrupter is soldered on the inside of the running rail beyond where a train would normally be expected to stop. If a train goes too far, the flange snaps off the interrupter setting an alarm off in the relevant control room. The reason they are at a location such as triangle, is that there are no policeman controlling our speed in the siding. The siding however is only entered at 5mph but they are tight. If a train does overrun it is into the buffer and then a rather large brick wall, and as there are no LUL staff based there (security guards are there 24hrs, but not trained in such matters) the interrupters are just insurance so the emergency services are called, if a train should overrun. At a terminal station, its the buffers and whatever is beyond we need to worry about. Once again just because the TCI's been sheared off, doesn't mean any damage has been done, because it is unlikely the train has gone that far, but the TCI is there just in case. We do a lot of things safer than they need to be done, but personally I rather like it that way.
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Post by Chris M on Sept 15, 2005 22:07:38 GMT
Better safe than sorry! Yes, because you cant fit a 96ts through the manual gate! ;D You could almost get a C stock between the gate and the Jubbly train though ;D
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