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Post by croxleyn on May 10, 2020 16:10:19 GMT
For those enjoying TV documentaries, Tim Dunn has done a good presentation on Down Street station, together with other railway edifices. This plus the second episode are available on UKTV Play. Further episodes are live on "Yesterday" channel, Tuesdays 8pm / Saturdays 11pm. |
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Post by John Tuthill on May 10, 2020 17:15:14 GMT
For those enjoying TV documentaries, Tim Dunn has done a good presentation on Down Street station, together with other railway edifices. This plus the second episode are available on UKTV Play. Further episodes are live on "Yesterday" channel, Tuesdays 8pm / Saturdays 11pm. Am I alone in thinking his delivery is a bit like 'Blue Peter for adults?' And my old English teacher Mr. Crawford would have gone ballistic at the title: "Railways didn't build anything!! They were built by humans!"  |
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Post by Tom on May 10, 2020 17:35:44 GMT
I've not seen any of them but the trailer features an opening clip from Paignton (Queen's Park) station. The building is of little architectural merit and is a hideous 1970s asbestos sheet construction dressed up. The thought that it was used for series celebrating railway architecture makes me shudder.
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Post by rincew1nd on May 10, 2020 19:31:36 GMT
For those enjoying TV documentaries, Tim Dunn has done a good presentation on Down Street station, together with other railway edifices. This plus the second episode are available on UKTV Play. Further episodes are live on "Yesterday" channel, Tuesdays 8pm / Saturdays 11pm. Am I alone in thinking his delivery is a bit like 'Blue Peter for adults?' And my old English teacher Mr. Crawford would have gone ballistic at the title: "Railways didn't build anything!! They were built by humans!" Tim certainly has an "effervescent" style which not all will appreciate. From what I've seen of the series so far it's about getting people to look at what's around them; I'm enjoying it so far. |
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Post by pgb on May 11, 2020 7:15:40 GMT
Tim certainly has an "effervescent" style which not all will appreciate. From what I've seen of the series so far it's about getting people to look at what's around them; I'm enjoying it so far. Tim and the team were brilliant to work with (was involved in the Ffestiniog and Welsh Highland bit). He is just the same off-screen as on screen. I probably should apologise to Laurie the apprentice because I dropped her right in it for the Boston Lodge bit as I ended up with a real problem I needed to go and solve. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 11, 2020 10:02:31 GMT
Am I alone in thinking his delivery is a bit like 'Blue Peter for adults?' Havent seen it yet, but there are some programmes I will watch because of the presenter - e.g Alice Roberts, Tony Robinson, Ian Hislop, Geoff Marshall & Vicki Pipe, Victoria Coren-Mitchell, Fuzz Townshend - and other programmes I will watch for the content in spite of the presenter. Tim Dunn's association with the execrable "Train Spotting Live" and his pushing of The Trainline put this series in the latter category. And my old English teacher Mr. Crawford would have gone ballistic at the title: "Railways didn't build anything!! They were built by humans!" Not by "the railways" in the sense of a length of track, but definitely built by the Railways (capital R) in the sense of companies - the Metropolitan Railway, the Great Western Railway etc. |
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Post by pgb on May 11, 2020 15:56:46 GMT
Havent seen it yet, but there are some programmes I will watch because of the presenter - e.g Alice Roberts, Tony Robinson, Ian Hislop, Geoff Marshall & Vicki Pipe, Victoria Coren-Mitchell, Fuzz Townshend - and other programmes I will watch for the content in spite of the presenter. Tim Dunn's association with the execrable "Train Spotting Live" and his pushing of The Trainline put this series in the latter category. If I'm honest, I think I'd now start watching TV shows by the way they actually make them on the ground. Steam Train Britain (Yesterday TV) whilst potentially being entertaining with continuity were wonderful on the ground. Understood the fact that there are times to keep to etc. Same with Tim Dunn and co, definitely aware of time. Some others of course have no concept of space and time as it were...or safety! |
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Post by rincew1nd on May 11, 2020 18:24:02 GMT
He is just the same off-screen as on screen. Having shared several glasses of gin with Tim, I can vouch for this. His passion is genuine. Havent seen it yet, but there are some programmes I will watch because of the presenter - e.g Alice Roberts, Tony Robinson, Ian Hislop, Geoff Marshall & Vicki Pipe, Victoria Coren-Mitchell, Fuzz Townshend - and other programmes I will watch for the content in spite of the presenter. Tim Dunn's association with the execrable "Train Spotting Live" and his pushing of The Trainline put this series in the latter category. You can't blame him for promoting the activities of the company that pay his "day job" wages! There are some on your list that you watch because of the presenters that I won't watch because of the presenters. Each to their own. Tim wrote (IMHO) an excellent article about our Christmas Social 2016 visit to King's Cross: blog.ltmuseum.co.uk/2016/12/16/the-hidden-tunnels-beneath-kings-cross-station/ |
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Post by MoreToJack on May 12, 2020 1:14:16 GMT
I can only agree with everything said about Tim. Whilst we haven't gotten round to having several glasses of gin yet, he joined me on the final night of operation of Edgware Road cabin last year and was incredibly aware of the privilege of being in an operational environment - the same doesn't go for other visitors (including people on the initial list) that I've had...
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 12, 2020 7:21:57 GMT
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Post by peagle on May 15, 2020 16:25:11 GMT
Note re Paignton Queen's Park upthread - the subject of the item was not that station but the non-rail-served "railway" station at Dartmouth.
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Post by Tom on May 15, 2020 20:50:52 GMT
That makes sense, then why not film something at Churston, Kingswear or Dartmouth in the trailer? The use of Paignton just seems wrong if you're trying to draw someone in to watch a programme about stunning railway architecture.
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Post by timbo on Jun 30, 2020 12:35:44 GMT
Hullo folks
Long time DDF viewer, rare caller-in here.
Heads up that tonight's - and indeed the final - episode of 'The Architecture The Railways Built' at 8pm has a feature on some of the Jubilee line extension stations.
Likely nothing new for the specialists but it's always good to tell a great story to a broad audience and the ever-ace Ann Gavaghan from TfL does it admirably in this. Also in this episode is the story of Milano Centrale and some of the key building features of Swindon's Railway Village.
I would also like to add that I have enjoyed this thread immensely.
cheers
Tim
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Post by bassmike on Jun 30, 2020 17:33:48 GMT
Unfortunately,I agree about the "effervescent" presentation. This seems to be a disease nowadays where everything is presented in a state of semi-hysteria with loud irrelevant background music over which the presenter shouts loudly, which he would not need to do if the background music wasn't there or much quieter, .This obviously also applies to all types of programme on all topics. Not quite so noisy but worse in some ways are programmes like those presented by Dan Snow and his ilk with bombastic ill-informed and patronising presentation--- but then I'm just a miserable old fart!
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 1, 2020 6:34:36 GMT
with loud irrelevant background music over which the presenter shouts loudly, Noted several times recently on "Car SOS", when they finally get an engine to fire up, and say "listen to that [Flat 4 / Straight 6 / V8] sound" but you can't because of the background music. |
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Post by bassmike on Jul 1, 2020 13:14:38 GMT
Correction to my last post----I meant Jon Snow not his son Dan Snow who is not as bad,but not blameless in that respect.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 1, 2020 13:49:07 GMT
Correction to my last post----I meant Jon Snow not his son Dan Snow who is not as bad,but not blameless in that respect. Dan Snow's father is Peter Snow, the ex-BBC political pundit. |
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Post by countryman on Jul 1, 2020 14:12:25 GMT
Correction to my last post----I meant Jon Snow not his son Dan Snow who is not as bad,but not blameless in that respect. Dan Snow's father is Peter Snow, the ex-BBC political pundit. Indeed! Jon Snow is Dan Snow's uncle. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 2, 2020 6:35:30 GMT
Dan Snow's father is Peter Snow, the ex-BBC political pundit. Indeed! Jon Snow is Dan Snow's uncle. Jon Snow is Peter Snow's cousin, not his brother, and therefore Dan's first cousin once removed. |
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Post by brigham on Jul 2, 2020 7:37:10 GMT
Oh no!
I can't keep track of these extended relations.
'First cousin once removed'. Does that mean he could marry him?
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Post by bassmike on Jul 2, 2020 14:58:52 GMT
I think i might have meant Peter snow (is he the one who used to change his necktie every two minuit?) Whichever one it was,he presented a t v programme about some preserved line or similar =can't remember the title= Where he boomed out juvenile questions in a loud and patronizing way .
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Post by John Tuthill on Jul 2, 2020 15:03:22 GMT
I think i might have meant Peter snow (is he the one who used to change his necktie every two minuit?) Whichever one it was,he presented a t v programme about some preserved line or similar =can't remember the title= Where he boomed out juvenile questions in a loud and patronizing way . John Snow is the arrogant news reader, Peter Snow is the 'love child' of Magnus Pyke. The sons ok, its his father who wants tying down. Better still, only bring him out when the election counts are on  |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 2, 2020 19:58:38 GMT
Oh no! I can't keep track of these extended relations. 'First cousin once removed'. Does that mean he could marry him? No, but only because they are both already married. |
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Post by rincew1nd on Jul 2, 2020 23:12:05 GMT
Oh no! I can't keep track of these extended relations. 'First cousin once removed'. Does that mean he could marry him? Does this help your lack of understanding?  |
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Post by jimbo on Jul 3, 2020 0:45:26 GMT
Oh no! I can't keep track of these extended relations. 'First cousin once removed'. Does that mean he could marry him? Does this help your lack of understanding? So to be clear, a first cousin once removed can apparently be a generation before or after you in different lines! |
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Post by gantshill on Jul 3, 2020 7:15:37 GMT
[/quote]So to be clear, a first cousin once removed can apparently be a generation before or after you in different lines!
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Yes, either they are a cousin of one of your parents, or a child of one of your cousins.
But this is off-topic.
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Post by bassmike on Jul 3, 2020 14:51:05 GMT
Booody H--, I seem to have started something!!
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Post by bassmike on Jul 3, 2020 14:55:29 GMT
I think i might have meant Peter snow (is he the one who used to change his necktie every two minuit?) Whichever one it was,he presented a t v programme about some preserved line or similar =can't remember the title= Where he boomed out juvenile questions in a loud and patronizing way . John Snow is the arrogant news reader, Peter Snow is the 'love child' of Magnus Pyke. The sons ok, its his father who wants tying down. Better still, only bring him out when the election counts are on I thought it was John Snow (him with the endless necktie wardrobe)Quite agree with you. |
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Post by brigham on Jul 4, 2020 7:32:16 GMT
So different degrees of cousins are like musical notation; gradually developed over time with little regard to logic or utility.
The chart noticeably endorses the popular, though incorrect, notion of a 'Great Uncle', current even before Bulgaria was a lad.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 5, 2020 7:00:12 GMT
So different degrees of cousins are like musical notation; gradually developed over time with little regard to logic or utility. The chart noticeably endorses the popular, though incorrect, notion of a 'Great Uncle', current even before Bulgaria was a lad. My nephew became a father last year: if I'm not a great uncle, what am I? "Cousin once removed" looks logical to me - although there is no distinction between the two individuals, the relationship between the two people is cousins once removed. (All relationships more remote than first cousin can be referred to as cousins). It is true though that most intergenerational relationships have different names for the two, e,g uncle/nephew. There are oddities in the nomenclature - for example there are usually both gender-specific and gender-neutral words for such relationships, e.g brother/sister/sibling, but there is no gender-neutral word to describe your uncles and aunts, or your nieces and nephews, and conversely no word that identifies the gender of a cousin. |
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