Treasury rebuffed TfL bid for Piccadilly line signalling funds in spending round, but TfL boss Mike Brown wrote: "With further certainty on funding to complete the Tube upgrades, we could build up to two trains a month at this factory for the next three decades from 2023".
One wonders what tube upgrades require 24 trains per year, or 240 per decade, or 720 trains in 30 years. Well 240 trains in decade to 2033 sounds like DTUP 250 trains for Picc, Bakerloo, Central and Waterloo & City line. That still leaves 480 trains to 2053. The Northern & Jubilee have 170 trains, perhaps plus up to 60 for upgrade 2, which is 230 trains by 2043. Maybe the Victoria line 48 trains by 2045 when they are 35 years old. That still leaves around another 240 trains by 2053 which must be S stock replacement, 35 years old by 2052.
So looks like all tube upgrades, as stated, and does not include DLR, TfL, & Overground. This reminds me of the original PPP scheme which seemed to put a 30 year renewal cycle on rolling stock and signalling. It would put the new lightweight semi-articulated trains on all lines, but assumes that one factory would win all competitive tenders for 30 years! That's why I called this 'dreams of new trains'.
Post by aslefshrugged on Sept 25, 2019 8:24:31 GMT
This is Mike Brown speaking, the man who promised in 2013 that after they closed the ticket offices "All Tube stations will continue to be staffed and controlled in future, with more staff visible and available to customers"
Well they do need new trains on the Bakerloo and the Pic, and those Central things are as awful as ever. Who is going to pay for them is the big question? Living and working in London I still think the government funding for transport should be focused outside London. London should fund its own transport, either in fares or London based taxes.
As for staff I see plenty of them hanging around the gatelines, even on the outer part of the Met. I do wonder how they are kept from hiding in the mess room?