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Post by jeremy on Sept 16, 2019 13:43:32 GMT
A new signalling system has been introduced and training wasn't adequately undertaken until the system was live and running. The information given out as to what and why was misleading, inaccurate, conflicting and not kept up to date. It's not a great way to run a business.
Whilst this sounds firmly a case of mismanagement the day when the trains and the signals will allow driver free running can't come fast enough!
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Post by MoreToJack on Sept 16, 2019 14:25:27 GMT
1. The training issue isn’t as straightforward as everyone is making it out to be, it could have been planned better and certainly communicated better, but to an extent this was always going to be the case. The same happened with SMA 0.5, which everyone seems to have forgotten.
2. I’m 26. I’d put my chances of owning a house on the table and say that the Tube will never run without drivers in my life time, and nor should it.
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 16, 2019 16:59:45 GMT
I suppose that because the member of staff on the DLR is not fixed to the front of the train so this system is 'driverless' - but there is always someone onbioard who can drive the train if it becomes necessary.
Re: the rest of London's railways, perhaps and maybe the public would accept the Waterloo & City line to have fully unstaffed trains (I am not sure), but even though I have travelled on fully driverless urban metro trains overseas (many cities) and also driverless people movers here in the UK I too would not want to see fully unstaffed trains on the Underground. Nor the DLR.
Fully automated / unstaffed station lifts is plenty enough!
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Post by superteacher on Sept 16, 2019 17:53:21 GMT
1. The training issue isn’t as straightforward as everyone is making it out to be, it could have been planned better and certainly communicated better, but to an extent this was always going to be the case. The same happened with SMA 0.5, which everyone seems to have forgotten. 2. I’m 26. I’d put my chances of owning a house on the table and say that the Tube will never run without drivers in my life time, and nor should it. Agree 100%! Whilst this sounds firmly a case of mismanagement the day when the trains and the signals will allow driver free running can't come fast enough!
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Post by ijmad on Sept 16, 2019 21:10:17 GMT
Not a good evening service on the Met tonight due to signal failure at Neasden. Unfortunately I doubt the travelling public are familiar with the boundaries of the various SMAs. Lots of work to do to restore the line's reputation this week and not off to a good start unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 21:31:19 GMT
Point failure at Neasden meant trains had to go through the depot empty to rejoin the line going southbound
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Post by MoreToJack on Sept 16, 2019 23:46:09 GMT
Nothing at all to do with a deposed Wizard having their first shift on the Met... 🤣
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Post by Colin on Sept 17, 2019 2:03:36 GMT
BTW - I noticed that the entire SMA 0.5/1/2 area is closed for engineering works next weekend. Tweaks rolling out? Perhaps an updated software version? Or physical tweaks here and there to infrastructure? Or just more driver training? Anyone know? Testing engineers trains using CBTC |
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Post by commuter on Sept 17, 2019 16:23:29 GMT
That poster looks a few days old. Perhaps they just haven't been told to remove them yet. I imagine that a week's cycle means nearly all drivers on the Met will have had a chance to receive instruction in the new procedures. BTW - I noticed that the entire SMA 0.5/1/2 area is closed for engineering works next weekend. Tweaks rolling out? Perhaps an updated software version? Or physical tweaks here and there to infrastructure? Or just more driver training? Anyone know? The text in the bottom right says from 4 sept so yes it is old. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 17, 2019 16:27:10 GMT
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Post by ijmad on Sept 17, 2019 16:57:04 GMT
The line as a whole seems to be behaving itself through both peaks today so hopefully the travelling public will start to forget last week
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Post by Chris M on Sept 17, 2019 17:30:56 GMT
The line as a whole seems to be behaving itself through both peaks today so hopefully the travelling public will start to forget last week I think you might have spoken too soon. My partner has just phoned me from Aldgate saying there are "hundreds of angry people" trying to leave the station because "someone broke a Metropolitan line train at Baker Street." |
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Post by MoreToJack on Sept 17, 2019 17:38:47 GMT
Non-communicating train at Baker 2. Probably the worst time for it to happen because there aren’t enough places to put away Met trains. An empty shuttle has been circulating via Baker 6 with everything now on the move.
As a full service has now been restored on the Met line I’m going to lock this. General SSR resignalling issues can go in the main thread; please create a new thread for any new topics.
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