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Post by orienteer on Aug 19, 2019 15:20:01 GMT
Can anyone explain why Rayners Lane to Uxbridge is closed for the bank holiday weekend?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 19, 2019 16:08:16 GMT
Can anyone explain why Rayners Lane to Uxbridge is closed for the bank holiday weekend? |
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Post by DWS on Aug 19, 2019 17:36:58 GMT
Why can't Ruislip siding be used to reverse the service west of Rayners Lane ?
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Post by Chris M on Aug 19, 2019 18:52:38 GMT
Probably because the final bullet point will require Rayners Lane signal box to be closed.
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Post by goldenarrow on Aug 19, 2019 20:10:14 GMT
Does that mean that points around Rayners Lane will be handworked for reversing Met and Piccadilly trains?
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Post by DWS on Aug 19, 2019 21:34:01 GMT
Probably because the final bullet point will require Rayners Lane signal box to be closed. The Metropolitan and Piccadilly Lines service will be reversed at Rayners Lane, the box will be open. |
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Post by DWS on Aug 19, 2019 21:37:35 GMT
Does that mean that points around Rayners Lane will be handworked for reversing Met and Piccadilly trains? No the points will be worked as normal, it’s the points at Uxbridge that are being removed. Uxbridge Interlocking Machine Room (IMR) is controlled from Rayners Lane signal cabin . |
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Post by metman on Aug 20, 2019 11:01:05 GMT
Ruislip siding and junction is probably required for engineering trains during the possession.
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Post by goldenarrow on Aug 20, 2019 13:09:59 GMT
orienteer , based on what Dstock7080 has provided, Uxbridge sidings has gone from this (up to 2018):  To this (post August 2019):  DISCLAIMER: Several liquids were consumed in the process of editing this diagram and as such has been classified as botched.
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Post by MoreToJack on Aug 20, 2019 14:44:14 GMT
You have one too many sidings; 36 road (third from top) was removed as part of the S8 enabling works many moons ago.
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Post by londonstuff on Aug 20, 2019 14:52:16 GMT
goldenarrow - that is a very, very good effort: I think you’d only see such a level of interest and detail here. Very well done! 👏🏻 However, in the interests of healthy competition I thought I’d have a go, to put my own unique slant on it, after all, no one wants one person getting all the glory. I can confirm that no liquid drinks were consumed making this. 
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Post by goldenarrow on Aug 20, 2019 15:27:42 GMT
You have one too many sidings; 36 road (third from top) was removed as part of the S8 enabling works many moons ago. Many thanks, all fixed now 😉 londonstuff, Much more original than mine! Yesterday, I found a ton of blank track and signal diagrams on some memory sticks. I must have just copied over one of those and then filled in the gaps that have changed in the last 20 years. |
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Post by DWS on Aug 20, 2019 18:05:30 GMT
Ruislip siding and junction is probably required for engineering trains during the possession. Since my previous post I have found out the siding at Ruislip is required for the movement of Engineers Trains. At Rayners Lane, Piccadilly Line trains will reverse via the siding. Metropolitan Line trains will reverse off platform number 1 . |
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Post by superteacher on Aug 20, 2019 19:51:15 GMT
goldenarrow - that is a very, very good effort: I think you’d only see such a level of interest and detail here. Very well done! 👏🏻 However, in the interests of healthy competition I thought I’d have a go, to put my own unique slant on it, after all, no one wants one person getting all the glory. I can confirm that no liquid drinks were consumed making this. OK, now over to MoreToJack to put in the signals . . . 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 10:24:32 GMT
Including any RGI’s, Fog Repeaters etc etc  |
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Post by superteacher on Aug 21, 2019 11:10:45 GMT
Including any RGI’s, Fog Repeaters etc etc RGI's - looking at the diagram there will be quite a few of those! |
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Post by goldenarrow on Aug 21, 2019 15:43:40 GMT
Interesting frequency this weekend, journey planner is showing that the Piccadilly will for once get the more frequent service (every 10 mins) whilst the Metropolitan has a lop sided interval with alternate 10 and 20 minute headways.
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Post by metman on Aug 21, 2019 18:37:09 GMT
It’s a shame the Piccadilly cannot be reversed off the wrong road platform exclusively leaving the Met from the ‘usual’ platform via the siding. I guess a 15 mins frequency on the Met with every other train reversing at Harrow may have allowed the Piccadilly time to arrive and reverse once the Met had cleared the westbound platform?
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Post by nig on Aug 22, 2019 11:48:28 GMT
It’s a shame the Piccadilly cannot be reversed off the wrong road platform exclusively leaving the Met from the ‘usual’ platform via the siding. I guess a 15 mins frequency on the Met with every other train reversing at Harrow may have allowed the Piccadilly time to arrive and reverse once the Met had cleared the westbound platform? that's probably because the met line is reversing off the wrong road starter |
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Post by DWS on Aug 22, 2019 14:06:28 GMT
It’s a shame the Piccadilly cannot be reversed off the wrong road platform exclusively leaving the Met from the ‘usual’ platform via the siding. I guess a 15 mins frequency on the Met with every other train reversing at Harrow may have allowed the Piccadilly time to arrive and reverse once the Met had cleared the westbound platform? that's probably because the met line is reversing off the wrong road starter There was once a plan to have two sidings at Rayners Lane the same that's at Amersham . |
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Post by roythebus on Aug 22, 2019 21:08:14 GMT
Sullivan Buses will be providing the railway replacement service from Rayners Lane to Uxbridge. I'm late standby at Rayners Lane I think!
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Post by orienteer on Aug 24, 2019 16:29:34 GMT
Thanks for all the explanations!
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Post by roythebus on Aug 27, 2019 12:51:04 GMT
Pleased to say the Sullivan Buses seemed to work remarkably well most of the time; there was a bit of overcrowding at times with passengers left behind at Rayners Lane and Uxbridge. It was well used.
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Post by commuter on Aug 31, 2019 19:31:38 GMT
Know it’s a bit behind the time but I’ve been away so hadn’t seen this before now.
The reason nothing was running west of Rayner’s Lane was because there was a separate worksite in the area of Ruislip Manor with various maintenance taking place here such as scrap clearance and conductor rail works.
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Post by orienteer on Sept 3, 2019 14:54:10 GMT
And closed again this weekend (7/8th Sept). Since Rayners Lane is out of use I guess that's where the work is taking place.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 3, 2019 15:21:04 GMT
And closed again this weekend (7/8th Sept). Since Rayners Lane is out of use I guess that's where the work is taking place. Points and crossings renewal at South Harrow. PICC trains unable to reverse, or use sidings at South Harrow 9-12 and 16-19 September. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 17:27:42 GMT
Unistar points are being installed at South Harrow and they have no stretchers but as of today have yet to get approval from LU assurance department
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Post by programmes1 on Sept 3, 2019 17:50:42 GMT
Unistar points are being installed at South Harrow and they have no stretchers but as of today have yet to get approval from LU assurance department And for those that have not heard of unistar this should help. Click here |
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Post by londonstuff on Sept 3, 2019 18:41:44 GMT
Unistar points are being installed at South Harrow and they have no stretchers but as of today have yet to get approval from LU assurance department And for those that have not heard of unistar this should help. Click hereThat was absolutely fascinating - thank you. Is this the fist place they’ll be installed on a passenger line as opposed to within a depot-type training facility? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 19:21:48 GMT
Believe so
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