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Post by danwoodhouse on Mar 31, 2019 22:59:36 GMT
when did the trial painted (but not refurbished) A stock trains first enter service
there is conflicting sources out there that say either 1988 or 1989
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Post by littlejohn on Apr 1, 2019 16:10:14 GMT
I have had a look at my back numbers of 'London Underground Rolling Stock' by Brian Hardy (pub: Ian Allan). The 1990 edition says, in relation to the trial exterior repainting of the A Stock on the East London Line, that the first repaint (Unit 5066) was completed at Ruislip in November 1998. The other 6 units used on the ELL were done by Vic Berry at Leicester in 1989-90. The final one (Unit 5122) was in the Red Doors livery finally adopted, except that the roof was white instead of grey. As subsequent editions say the same thing I suppose it is correct. Additionally, the 1988 volume records that in 1986-87 various experiments were made with repainting car roofs either maroon or blue, with car numbers in matching colours.
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Post by littlejohn on Apr 1, 2019 16:11:43 GMT
Arrrggh! Second line - November 1988. Apologies
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Post by danwoodhouse on Apr 12, 2019 7:29:40 GMT
so they were not all done at the same time
might explain why on video 125s Met and District video from 1989 the 2 A stocks at Whitechapel are both unpainted
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Post by superteacher on Apr 12, 2019 9:29:53 GMT
so they were not all done at the same time might explain why on video 125s Met and District video from 1989 the 2 A stocks at Whitechapel are both unpainted Also the East London Line didn’t have its own dedicated fleet of A stock trains. They were regularly swapped round with other units from Neasden. |
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Post by xplaistow on Apr 12, 2019 15:00:33 GMT
Video 125s Metropolitan Main Line (filmed in 1995) features both painted and unpainted A stocks.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 14, 2019 20:01:30 GMT
I would need to look at my super 8 films from the late 1980's. I feel sure that I filmed this in around that time frame, but am unsure if it was '88 or '89.
I also filmed here in 1990, but S-VHS-C video, with sound.
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Post by Chris L on Apr 15, 2019 12:31:56 GMT
so they were not all done at the same time might explain why on video 125s Met and District video from 1989 the 2 A stocks at Whitechapel are both unpainted Also the East London Line didn’t have its own dedicated fleet of A stock trains. They were regularly swapped round with other units from Neasden. Having been involved in the build up to painting the first unit, but memory is not as good as it was, a 4 car unit was painted and they tried to keep it on the East London line so that you didn't see a mixed 8 car train. |
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Post by superteacher on Apr 15, 2019 20:33:57 GMT
Also the East London Line didn’t have its own dedicated fleet of A stock trains. They were regularly swapped round with other units from Neasden. Having been involved in the build up to painting the first unit, but memory is not as good as it was, a 4 car unit was painted and they tried to keep it on the East London line so that you didn't see a mixed 8 car train. As with many intentions, it didn't always work out that way. Not sure if there are any pics of a mixed unit out there. |
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Post by metman on Apr 15, 2019 22:07:04 GMT
i certainly remember seeing them in the early 90s. The first units chosen were deliberately double ended non-de icing units which were more suitable for the East London Line (ELL) and didn’t leave the mainline short.
The last unit painted was 5122 in what was not fair from the chosen corporate ‘Orsman’ livery and this was a de icer presumably as there weren’t many untreated left which weren’t de icers and it was expected to be shown off on the mainline too!
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