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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 13:37:07 GMT
THanks for the replies, sorry I'd forgotten I'd asked the question only remembered today. Amid all the other gen, was it established if there are 73TS RAT cars this year or not..... the thread gave loads of useful data but don't think answered my question ) -- Nick There are indeed 1973 stock RAT trains out for the duration of the lead fall season/timetable. Same set up a last year with one unit for each open end of the line respectively using the exact same numbered 3 car formations as before. Most likely due to the fact there is a hole in the floor for the sandite pipes?
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Post by fish7373 on Nov 15, 2018 19:57:27 GMT
There are indeed 1973 stock RAT trains out for the duration of the lead fall season/timetable. Same set up a last year with one unit for each open end of the line respectively using the exact same numbered 3 car formations as before. Most likely due to the fact there is a hole in the floor for the sandite pipes? There is no holes been drilled through the floor this is the second year i had to fit it to the two units and take it off and put back in the box the reason we used the same trains both have a good history on reliability to say no gremlins in the works.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 20:37:05 GMT
How does the sandite get from the pumps in the saloon to the underframe? Can't imagine it going though the doors as that requires playing with the door interlocks?
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Post by fish7373 on Nov 15, 2018 22:02:38 GMT
How does the sandite get from the pumps in the saloon to the underframe? Can't imagine it going though the doors as that requires playing with the door interlocks? I will find a photo for you.
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Post by fish7373 on Nov 15, 2018 22:16:14 GMT
Photo of RAT pipe work to bogie from inside of car.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 8:25:28 GMT
Wow, that's a really neat solution. How long does it take to fit out a unit with the equipment?
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Post by fish7373 on Nov 16, 2018 22:41:20 GMT
Wow, that's a really neat solution. How long does it take to fit out a unit with the equipment? It takes us about 4 days to fit to one unit.
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Post by patrickb on Nov 18, 2018 20:36:39 GMT
Why can't there be a more permanent arrangement of fitting Sandite equipment on 67 or 72 MkI Stock. So many cars are littered around the network. It seems like a waste.
Though I suppose, if the 73s are up for the chop. You're better off keeping one of them.
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Post by rincew1nd on Nov 19, 2018 1:11:37 GMT
I don't think the 67ts needed sandite before they went for the chop, and I doubt their replacement 09ts do so now!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 9:34:00 GMT
[/quote]possible to run a service Uxbridge Ickenham, reversing via ruislip siding, can't imagine circumstances where that would happen though.[/quote]
Around 3 years ago, there was a person under a train incident at Rayners Lane whilst Uxbridge sidings was under possession, 5 trains were in effect locked in between Ickenham and Uxbridge, with Uxbridge only having 3 platforms and to prevent any trains being stalled an Uxbridge to Ickenham shuttle was put in to keep everything moving
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 20:58:09 GMT
Why can't there be a more permanent arrangement of fitting Sandite equipment on 67 or 72 MkI Stock. So many cars are littered around the network. It seems like a waste. Though I suppose, if the 73s are up for the chop. You're better off keeping one of them. That has its own problems, like the central line 62ts and the met line D78. When not used, they sit around which causes them problems. There is not a special team that look after the RAT trains, not the depot. The Pic Line RATs however require very little extra training, its service stock which is maintained along side all the other 73ts and does not end up sitting around as it goes back into passenger service.
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Post by commuter on Nov 19, 2018 20:58:17 GMT
Around 3 years ago, there was a person under a train incident at Rayners Lane whilst Uxbridge sidings was under possession, 5 trains were in effect locked in between Ickenham and Uxbridge, with Uxbridge only having 3 platforms and to prevent any trains being stalled an Uxbridge to Ickenham shuttle was put in to keep everything moving Very eery that you should have posted this today only a few hours ago. As we speak there is currently ongoing a person under train incident at Rayners Lane, and the Met are running an Ickenham to Uxbridge shuttle!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 0:24:27 GMT
Yes and even more eery was I happened to be the signaller that was on!
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Post by metman on Nov 20, 2018 7:01:28 GMT
Thanks for the photo Fish a very neat solution indeed. How congested is it under the 8XX trailers? They have two compressors right? Do they both operate side by side or is one a back up in case one fails? I assume they both feed one air reservoir or is that all duplicated too? Is there still an auxiliary reservoir on these trains?
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Post by fish7373 on Nov 22, 2018 0:11:55 GMT
Thanks for the photo Fish a very neat solution indeed. How congested is it under the 8XX trailers? They have two compressors right? Do they both operate side by side or is one a back up in case one fails? I assume they both feed one air reservoir or is that all duplicated too? Is there still an auxiliary reservoir on these trains? Hi on a double ender you have two of ever thing the two compressors operate side by side air wise the same two main line tanks all cars have auxiliary air tanks for the brakeing on the 7 step relay.
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