class411
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Post by class411 on Sept 5, 2018 8:04:12 GMT
My mistake. I hadn't grasped the fact that, no matter how asinine the behaviour, it's never the passenger to blame. You are making a mistake that many people make when talking about many different situations. It is quite possible for some unwanted event to have more than one entity to blame. I am pretty sure that in a case where a passenger had tried to squeeze between closing doors and injury resulted, if it went to court, even if it was found that the railway company was culpable, any damages would be reduced to account for the passengers contributory culpability. Yes, there is blame attached to passengers who act in this way, but, given that the railway companies know full well that they do so, it is their duty to mitigate against such behaviour. Otherwise you could revoke vast swathes of health and safety regulations on the basis that they would not be needed if everybody behaved perfectly.
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Post by Chris M on Sept 5, 2018 8:04:48 GMT
My mistake. I hadn't grasped the fact that, no matter how asinine the behaviour, it's never the passenger to blame. You have completely missed the point. The passenger might be blamed for getting trapped in the doors. The passenger is in no way responsible for what happened after that, regardless of whose fault being trapped was. As long as there are both doors and passengers, passengers will get trapped in doors (deliberately or accidentally) unless there is some person or device that physically prevents a person entering or leaving once the door closure warning starts and ensures that all body parts and items of clothing and luggage are free of the doors, and this would be required at every doorway that can open (even if they usually don't) at every station or other place where passengers may board or alight. This is obviously not practical. Therefore the railway must instead ensure that when a passenger gets trapped in the doors they are not dragged - there may be actions the passenger can do to assist with this, but unless every passenger is given a training course on what to do in the event they are trapped or see someone else trapped and required to pass a test to show they have learned it before they are allowed to board, then the responsibility lies entirely with the railway.
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Post by superteacher on Sept 5, 2018 8:27:41 GMT
Thst was pretty much the whole situation summed up Chris M. Time to lock this one as we are going round in circles.
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