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Post by agoodcuppa on Oct 30, 2006 12:13:48 GMT
Anyone care to have a stab at dating this map of the London underground? i14.tinypic.com/2s1b3he.jpgA bonus point to anyone who can say which issue it is. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2006 12:18:33 GMT
Late 1940's?
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Post by agoodcuppa on Oct 30, 2006 12:19:33 GMT
Nope.  |
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Post by trc666 on Oct 30, 2006 12:25:55 GMT
1930s, just before WWII, as the Central, Northern and Bakerloo extensions hadn't been completed yet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2006 12:26:21 GMT
Then I'd say 1939. Just before the war, Bethnal Green and Mile End are already on the map although not in use yet (and will remain unused during the war).
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Post by agoodcuppa on Oct 30, 2006 12:37:41 GMT
Closer. But unless there's someone with an encyclopaedic knowledge of underground maps I doubt anyone's going to get closer except by a process of elimination. So seeing as you're only one year out, you're the winner. Good effort. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2006 12:43:17 GMT
 OK, one year, but was it 1938 or 1940? I'm a bit puzzled by BG and ME appearing as if they were in service. Bethnal Green was nearly finished when war broke out but not in service yet. Why would it appear on a map as if it was in service?
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Post by agoodcuppa on Oct 30, 2006 12:57:39 GMT
Sorry I should have said, 1938.
Your questions regarding Bethnal Green I can't answer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2006 13:52:44 GMT
Bah, I've only just found this thread; I knew it was 1938 as soon as I saw the map.
Do I win £5?
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Post by agoodcuppa on Oct 30, 2006 14:09:32 GMT
Bah, I've only just found this thread; I knew it was 1938 as soon as I saw the map. Commiserations.  If you enter the right competition you might win even more. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2006 20:57:20 GMT
Bah, I've only just found this thread; I knew it was 1938 as soon as I saw the map. Do I win £5? You can have my prize ;D if you can tell what part of the map gave it away for you... |
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Post by Oracle on Oct 30, 2006 22:16:23 GMT
Well, it was definitely pre-20th November 1939! So it had to be 1938 or early 1939. To think my late grandfather was a Foreman Ganger on the Pway at the time! Well done that man for "1938"!
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Post by mandgc on Oct 30, 2006 22:38:12 GMT
The Map is a card folder of 1938. It was not designed by Beck but by Zero, a poster artist of the time.
The emphasized 'air brushed" central Area gives it away. The 'open' Central Line to Mile End was a misprint (or proof that he did not give as much attention to detail and finish as did Beck.) :-)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2006 9:48:12 GMT
The Map is a card folder of 1938. It was not designed by Beck but by Zero, a poster artist of the time. The emphasized 'air brushed" central Area gives it away. The 'open' Central Line to Mile End was a misprint (or proof that he did not give as much attention to detail and finish as did Beck.) :-) Well, presumably he was working to LT's instructions, so it would be fairer to assume that some LT employee thought ME would be open by the time the map was issued. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2006 16:49:30 GMT
I just found this thread and immediately knew it was a 1938. For me the difference between the 1938 and the 1939 (on at least the ones I have seen) involve the line around Highgate, the 38 has a dashed line from Highgate (Archway) while the 1940 has the dashed line started at Highgate with the note (from summer 1940 only) while Highgate (Archway) is now Archway (Highgate).
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Post by mandgc on Nov 1, 2006 1:01:09 GMT
"Central Line Extension to Mile End"
There is no provision for terminating trains between Bethnal Green and Leyton ( except for Drapers Fields - which was a post-war arrangement to enable a service to be provided to Stratford) so it is unlikely that trains would be extended to Mile End.
I am surprised that LT could allow a "misprint" to be unnoticed before printing and distribution.
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Post by mandgc on Nov 2, 2006 9:17:39 GMT
Pocket Maps.
The next Card Folder, No.3 1939, was also in the Zero syle but showed Liverpool Street to Mile End (Central Line) correctly as"Under Construction" It also showed the Northern Line extended to East Finchley with Highgate shown as "From Summer 1940 only"
Card folder No.1 ,1940 appears to have the Zero arrangement of Lines and showed the extension to High Barnet. All the lines were shown in Brown as a wartime economy. Later Card Folders had the lines in full colours.
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Post by Ben on Nov 17, 2006 8:00:05 GMT
This map has to be my favourite. Its extreamly clear and easy to read, and, having messed around with it at home, its very easy to accomodate neatly quite a few of the planned New Works extensions and others from around that time, such as the Aldwych Branch to waterloo, the Central to richmond, the northern and district to Sutton
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