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Post by solidbond on Sept 30, 2006 22:44:29 GMT
OK - here's one for you all. What is the physical difference between the first 6 refurbished D stocks, and the rest?
Clues will be given if no-one gets the answer later this week ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2006 22:56:18 GMT
Okay, this obviously doesn't relate to the amount of DMI's or cameras in the cars, nor the white stripe by the doors, separating the blue band....
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Post by solidbond on Sept 30, 2006 23:04:58 GMT
CONGRATULATIONS!!!.....
You are correct......
It has NOTHING to do with any of those ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2006 23:17:35 GMT
size of car end windows... new windows?
Is ATO right with any of those then? (in terms of physical and non-physical)
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Post by solidbond on Sept 30, 2006 23:29:30 GMT
nope - nothing close so far  |
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Post by Chris M on Oct 1, 2006 0:13:50 GMT
ISTR the first 6 weren't all double-enders, and not all of the fleet have been done yet so that can't be it.
I'm guessing that a component that isn't blindingly obivous to your average punter has been changed from one manufacturor (sp?) to another?
Is it a complete difference (i.e. something(s) is/are present/missing) or a gradual (on the later something(s) is/are longer/shorter/bigger/smaller/fatter/thinner/etc)?
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Post by solidbond on Oct 1, 2006 9:13:29 GMT
Based on your description, it is a complete difference |
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Post by SE13 on Oct 1, 2006 10:11:07 GMT
Is this so glaringly obvious that it's something like the seat cover colours?
Or maybe the grab-handles?
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Post by pakenhamtrain on Oct 1, 2006 10:27:28 GMT
A wild guess: The GPS transponder isn't on the roof?
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Post by solidbond on Oct 1, 2006 11:39:08 GMT
A wild guess: The GPS transponder isn't on the roof? Close - but not quite right. |
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Post by pakenhamtrain on Oct 1, 2006 11:51:36 GMT
On looking at a few photos of the refurbs and being close with the GPS equipment.
I'm thinking now the opposite of that: The GPS equipment is on the roof?
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Post by solidbond on Oct 1, 2006 13:05:54 GMT
On looking at a few photos of the refurbs and being close with the GPS equipment. I'm thinking now the opposite of that: The GPS equipment is on the roof? Although you are close, you haven't specified what is the difference between the first 6 refurbs and the rest |
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Post by pakenhamtrain on Oct 1, 2006 14:10:02 GMT
The Difference between the first 6 refurbs and the rest of the fleet is the location of the GPS transponder/Reciver. The first 6 have it on the rear of the DM the rest have it some where else.?
Am I closer?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2006 15:40:22 GMT
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Post by solidbond on Oct 1, 2006 20:10:11 GMT
The Difference between the first 6 refurbs and the rest of the fleet is the location of the GPS transponder/Reciver. The first 6 have it on the rear of the DM the rest have it some where else.? Am I closer? Again very close, but not quite there yet ;D |
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Post by pakenhamtrain on Oct 1, 2006 22:19:33 GMT
I have a feeling it's not the GPS transponder itself, but the area it sits in.
The difference between the first 6 and the rest is the shape of where the transponder sits on the DM. The first 6 seem to have the cutout in the curved roof above the Intercar door while the rest of the Fleet have a curved roof.
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Post by solidbond on Oct 2, 2006 5:39:36 GMT
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Post by Chris M on Oct 2, 2006 9:33:30 GMT
Is it not out of guague without the cutout?
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Post by DrJimi on Oct 2, 2006 22:46:16 GMT
Is it not out of guague without the cutout? My thought exactly. For reference, here's an SSL loading gauge diagram. No mention is made of vertical clearance, however. Presumably it must be checked against structures on the line(s) it is intended to run on.  Compare to Tube Stocks:  |
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Post by solidbond on Oct 3, 2006 5:46:33 GMT
What has actually happened is that the GPS receiver is now incorporated into the roof structure - hence no need for the cut out - so it is no longer immediately obvious that there is anything there at all. I'll try to get a photo later and post to show what it now looks like.
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