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Post by theblackferret on Feb 1, 2017 20:50:50 GMT
Be interested to see if anyone else has an affinity with one. I always loved the Met as the trains were the same colour as they were on the Tube map, so that's one that's lasted nearly 60 years. Now, on mainlines, again when I was small, I could work out even then that the different types of brickwork, valencing etc. might have been built by different people. But this style: always seemed most pleasing to the 6-yo me, and it's remained that way-The London Brighton & South Coast Railway struck a chord with me & I never knew why it seemed inviting and almost homely to me. Until about 10 years ago, doing a bit of research on Genes Reunited, I confirmed what my late Mother had mentioned. Turns out both my maternal great-great-grandfather and great-great-uncle were employed by the Brighton, based around New Cross & Norwood Junction. So maybe it was in the genes all along.
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Post by Chris M on Feb 1, 2017 22:44:44 GMT
I'm far from an expert on railway architecture, but my first thought on seeing that photo was the North Eastern Railway's station at Tynemouth, now on the Tyne and Wear Metro.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 1, 2017 23:11:22 GMT
I'm definitely a GNR and LSWR man, probably reflecting where I was brought up. And Forbes rather than Watkin.
But there is no more logic to it than supporting football teams
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Post by theblackferret on Feb 1, 2017 23:19:00 GMT
I'm far from an expert on railway architecture, but my first thought on seeing that photo was the North Eastern Railway's station at Tynemouth, now on the Tyne and Wear Metro. Well, I don't know that area too well & have to say never went there as a youngster, but interesting-great minds thought alike in Victorian times? I'm definitely a GNR and LSWR man, probably reflecting where I was brought up. And Forbes rather than Watkin. But there is no more logic to it than supporting football teams Yes, the lack of logic to it is one reason it's so appealing & stays with us. I have to say the salmon-pink & green valancing of the LSWR platform canopies still stand out, even in old black-and-white photos.
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Post by brigham on Feb 2, 2017 12:29:41 GMT
I'm far from an expert on railway architecture, but my first thought on seeing that photo was the North Eastern Railway's station at Tynemouth, now on the Tyne and Wear Metro. Not Tynemouth. The Midland's Green Ayre was my first thought. This could become a railway version of The Murders in the Rue Morgue. I grew up in the Durham coalfield, so I'm mostly familiar with things North Eastern; I do have a liking for the occasional S&D artefact, though.
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Post by bassmike on Feb 2, 2017 13:57:49 GMT
Is that the old Coulsdon north building?
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Post by rapidtransitman on Feb 2, 2017 15:33:28 GMT
Waterloo & Whitehall Railway. Started construction, but unfortunately was affected by the 1866 financial crisis and was never completed.
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Post by theblackferret on Feb 2, 2017 18:28:56 GMT
Is that the old Coulsdon north building? Indeed it is, or was, as it's now housing! I'm far from an expert on railway architecture, but my first thought on seeing that photo was the North Eastern Railway's station at Tynemouth, now on the Tyne and Wear Metro. Not Tynemouth. The Midland's Green Ayre was my first thought. This could become a railway version of The Murders in the Rue Morgue. I grew up in the Durham coalfield, so I'm mostly familiar with things North Eastern; I do have a liking for the occasional S&D artefact, though. As long as none of us has to dress up like Bela Lugosi in the 1932 film version in a fetching curly wig, or indeed in the gorilla suit the murderous assistant wears in that one, we can probably keep it on topic and still emulate the Edgar Allen Poe story.
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Post by rincew1nd on Feb 2, 2017 18:55:37 GMT
Growing up looking out over the Aire Valley and being one of the youngest supporters of the campaign to save the Settle & Carlisle line it probably comes as no surprise that my favourite company from the past has to be The Midland Railway and its successor the LMS. Why, probably because as young boy the miniature Mickey and Minnie Mouse figures under the eaves of the station building: but also because some of the stations are in the most spectacular part of the country: So much so that on my recent #GrandUKtour despite the line being severed north of Armathwaite I still made sure I included it in my itinerary.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 0:25:34 GMT
Being a central Londoner and with a father who had a car, the only time we went on trains when I was a kid in the 60s was when we took the train from Paddington to Fishguard to get the ferry to Rosslare.
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Post by grahamhewett on Feb 3, 2017 13:45:39 GMT
Although it's difficult not to be a GW man, I have a very soft spot for the LBSC, where my greatgrandfather was the freight manager - we long had a sepia photo of 333 Remembrance, the LBSC war memorial loco, which had hung in his office after WW1 (my parents lost it when they moved, alas).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 20:36:23 GMT
British Rail will be my favourite train company from the past. unlike its many modern counterparts, it did actually make an effort to run the service properly, and with due care and attention - given the constraints in which it operated - in comparison with Govia-Southern who seem grossly incompetent in running a train service.
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Post by rincew1nd on Feb 5, 2017 20:51:41 GMT
unlike its many modern counterparts, it did actually make an effort to run the service properly, and with due care and attention... I suspect many of the current issue may take issue with your claim that they do not operate with due care and attention. I further suspect that your statement does not apply to the open access operators; they have all gone from nothing to providing a service which takes a lot of effort!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 20:59:48 GMT
unlike its many modern counterparts, it did actually make an effort to run the service properly, and with due care and attention... I suspect many of the current issue may take issue with your claim that they do not operate with due care and attention. I further suspect that your statement does not apply to the open access operators; they have all gone from nothing to providing a service which takes a lot of effort! I was only primarily thinking of Govia-Southern and Govia-Southeastern in mind, as the news states, they rank the worst in passenger satisfaction. Open Access Operators are a totally new concept here, so cannot be counted in this comparison.
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Post by rincew1nd on Feb 5, 2017 21:34:47 GMT
I suspect many of the current issue may take issue with your claim that they do not operate with due care and attention. I further suspect that your statement does not apply to the open access operators; they have all gone from nothing to providing a service which takes a lot of effort! Open Access Operators are a totally new concept here, so cannot be counted in this comparison. There have been Open Access operators for 80% of the time that the railways have been privatised. Hull trains started only four years after privatisation.
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Post by brigham on Feb 6, 2017 8:53:03 GMT
The first railway as we understand the term had more 'open access' operators that Company trains. That is why it was called a 'public railway'. The only period when outside operators were not permitted to run trains was during the Nationalisation Caper, when rail operations were conducted on a closed, Soviet-style basis.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 6, 2017 9:40:59 GMT
Even during the nationalisation era, private owner wagons and even complete trains were run over BR tracks, although usually hauled by BR traction until Foster Yeoman got fed up of class 56s failing to get up the hill out of their quarry and bought their own locos.
And of course, throughout the BR era, regular passenger services were run by another operator on BR tracks between East Putney and Wimbledon, between Gunnersbury and Richmond, and between Queens Park and Watford Junction.
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Post by class411 on Feb 6, 2017 12:04:52 GMT
... when rail operations were conducted on a closed, Soviet-style basis. So, Coca Cola is a 'Soviet-style' company because only it's own product is allowed in it's cans? Would you expect McDonalds to allow Burger king to sell their products from McDonalds assets? I really fail to see how a company not allowing others to use its assets to provide a competing service is 'Soviet'.
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Post by Dom K on Feb 6, 2017 12:32:30 GMT
Back on topic please
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Post by brigham on Feb 6, 2017 12:45:46 GMT
"I really fail to see how a company not allowing others to use its assets to provide a competing service is 'Soviet'." It isn't. A Soviet-style operation being closed does not imply that a closed operation is Soviet-style; in exactly the same way that all of Alma Cogan may be dead, but not all dead people are Alma Cogan.(Apologies to Monty Python) The BR Regime was 'Soviet-style' because the railway professionals who had the knowledge and expertise to run it were constantly over-ruled by professional politicians with a different agenda.
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Post by class411 on Feb 6, 2017 13:09:11 GMT
"I really fail to see how a company not allowing others to use its assets to provide a competing service is 'Soviet'." It isn't. A Soviet-style operation being closed does not imply that a closed operation is Soviet-style; in exactly the same way that all of Alma Cogan may be dead, but not all dead people are Alma Cogan.(Apologies to Monty Python) The BR Regime was 'Soviet-style' because the railway professionals who had the knowledge and expertise to run it were constantly over-ruled by professional politicians with a different agenda. Ah, sorry, I see what you mean now (and agree). Sorry to drag the thread off topic.
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Post by carltona on Apr 20, 2017 8:33:39 GMT
I have a fascination for the Great Central. I live near the Joint Line between Northolt Junction and High Wycombe. The stations are in GW style as were the signal boxes (go to West Ruislip to see both) but the bridges were Great Central in style. On my travels to places like Helmdon, much can be found remaining of the former main line, sometimes on a large scale.
On a walking trip in the Peak District last year I was heading to the Barrow Hill Roundhouse which I knew to be a Midland structure. Walking beside the Chesterfield Canal I came across the remains of bridge abutments, the Great Central brickwork was so obvious. In fact I was standing below where a station had stood serving the massive Stavely Works. You may well spot the odd manhole cover with Stanton & Stavely on it, the works has been demolished and just the old head office still stands.
Quorn & Woodhouse station on the GCR preserved line is a very typical GC station, one of the best in preservation in my opinion. I never travelled on the GC Line but as a child travelling along the M1 with my parents in the sixties I can remember the line running alongside the motorway south of Leicester.
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Post by theblackferret on Apr 20, 2017 9:34:04 GMT
I have a fascination for the Great Central. I live near the Joint Line between Northolt Junction and High Wycombe. The stations are in GW style as were the signal boxes (go to West Ruislip to see both) but the bridges were Great Central in style. On my travels to places like Helmdon, much can be found remaining of the former main line, sometimes on a large scale. On a walking trip in the Peak District last year I was heading to the Barrow Hill Roundhouse which I knew to be a Midland structure. Walking beside the Chesterfield Canal I came across the remains of bridge abutments, the Great Central brickwork was so obvious. In fact I was standing below where a station had stood serving the massive Stavely Works. You may well spot the odd manhole cover with Stanton & Stavely on it, the works has been demolished and just the old head office still stands. Quorn & Woodhouse station on the GCR preserved line is a very typical GC station, one of the best in preservation in my opinion. I never travelled on the GC Line but as a child travelling along the M1 with my parents in the sixties I can remember the line running alongside the motorway south of Leicester. That's great-not that many dedicated works stations around or even remnants thereof that had a dedicated passenger service, too: StaveleyWorksI used the Great Central route two or three times in the 1960's, to see Man. Utd. away games at Nottm. Forest & Sheffield Utd., if memory serves. As with a lot of people, I couldn't help noticing how smooth the ride was, because of the splendidly-engineered line.
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Post by nickf on Apr 20, 2017 11:58:53 GMT
London Tilbury & Southend Railway for me! Apart from spending my early working life commuting on this line, I can remember on the evening of the withdrawal of steam locomotives the sound of whistles coming from Southend Central - the drivers must have been marking the occasion. I also believe that Joe Brown was once a fireman based at Plaistow shed.
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Post by mikebuzz on May 23, 2017 10:15:59 GMT
I have a soft spot for the Great Central too, definitely my favourite, and has Met connections of course. A bit of an underdog, and though I grew up near the GN, I now live near the GC - which means walks along former railway track instead of a reopened freight line...
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Post by pitdiver on May 23, 2017 11:11:06 GMT
as I lived across the road from the East Coast Main Line my favourite has to be the the LNER only because of their magnificent locomotives. However apart from the LNER my other favourite is without doubt the Metropolitan Railway only because I worked on the Met when I first joined LUL.
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Post by mikebuzz on May 23, 2017 12:50:25 GMT
Well I have fond memories of HST's, 313's and the Flying Scotsman but never got to see an A4 (not Gresley because of the lack of valences). I just love those massive GCR loco's not too long before grouping, a bit like the NE ones but IMO more elegant.
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Post by brigham on May 23, 2017 14:43:42 GMT
Oh yes, the Robinson 4-6-0 types, with the single 'long' splasher!
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Post by countryman on May 23, 2017 17:32:00 GMT
Well I have fond memories of HST's, 313's and the Flying Scotsman but never got to see an A4 (not Gresley because of the lack of valences). I just love those massive GCR loco's not too long before grouping, a bit like the NE ones but IMO more elegant. Sorry, not sure what you mean by 'not Gresley'. Many, and possibly all of the Gresley A4s were built with valences, but these were later removed, presumably to ease maintenance and servicing.
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 23, 2017 17:49:04 GMT
Many, and possibly all of the Gresley A4s were built with valences, but these were later removed, presumably to ease maintenance and servicing. Definitely all - here is the last one to be built, complete with valences. They were removed shortly after the outbreak of war for ease of maintenance. Gresley was still in charge at the time - he died in office in 1941.
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