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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 26, 2017 11:34:01 GMT
On Friday as part the final phase of my #GrandUKtour I'm meeting a friend at Liverpool St and going to St Pancras for a drink then Euston to catch the Highland sleeper.
She is in a wheelchair, so I'd appreciate some advice on the best route to take. We've plenty of time, so any suggestions of the most interesting and/or easiest route are welcomed rather than just the quickest.
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Post by Dom K on Jan 26, 2017 12:20:39 GMT
Bus route 205 goes directly from Liverpool Street to Kings Cross. There are a handful of buses that go from Kings Cross to Euston 73 and 91 to name just 2!
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 26, 2017 12:27:23 GMT
Simplest would be the 205 bus. Having spent the past week with a wheelchair user that's what I would recommend, unless she is very interested in the Underground!
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The only step free access shown on the tube map in the Liv St area is the main line platforms at Liv St itself, and at Shoreditch High Street if you can get that far. I can't suggest anything more interesting than LSt- Stratford - London Bridge - KXSP or (more interesting in my book) SHS - Canada Water - London Bridge - KXSP
The tube map suggests all these interchanges are usable but as always it's as well to check everything is working before setting out. If London Bridge isn't available Green Park would be an option instead.
I would suggest the scenic LSt - Stratford - Greenwich - London Bridge - KXSP but Greenwich line trains are not stopping at LBr at present. (I don't think Lewisham NR is step free)
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 26, 2017 12:34:12 GMT
Bus route 205 goes directly from Liverpool Street to Kings Cross. There are a handful of buses that go from Kings Cross to Euston 73 and 91 to name just 2! 30, 59, 73, 205, 390, 476 to Euston bus station, or 10 and 91 to Upper Woburn Place across the road. But it's only a ten minute walk anyway.
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Post by crusty54 on Jan 26, 2017 13:58:12 GMT
Long way round the Circle line.
There is a lift from the main line concourse to the ticket hall at Liverpool Street and level access to the outer rail platform.
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Post by Chris M on Jan 26, 2017 13:58:18 GMT
The tube map really oversimplifies things to the point it is misleading. For example although there is step-free access to both Jubilee and Northern lines there is no step-free interchange between them, other than via walking between ticket halls at street level (410m walking, platform to platform). It is possible to get from Liverpool Street to Euston by tube. However, to do so you need to take an eastbound Metropolitan line train to Aldgate (no step-free access to the westbound), and remain on the train until it heads westbound. At Euston Square there is step-free access to the street (westbound only). TfL do produce a step-free tube guide which is very detailed. Make sure you pay attention to lift issues on the day though.
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Post by gantshill on Jan 26, 2017 14:12:24 GMT
YOu could always travel via the Circle Line: Liverpool Street, via Aldgate, to Edgware Raod, then cross platform interchange for any trian to King's Cross. It is a long way round, but a sensible route for a District-Daver.
Quickest way from St Pancras to Euston, if curbs (kerbs?) are not a problem, is probably along the pavement.
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Post by gantshill on Jan 26, 2017 14:14:45 GMT
I like the Met via Aldgate idea - a very neat route. You need tobe in car seven of the S8 at Liverpool Street, whcih turns into car 2 at Euston Square.
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Post by piccboy on Jan 26, 2017 15:19:12 GMT
Liverpool St Eastbound Hammersmith and City to Whitechapel (island platform), Hammersmith & City back to King's Cross St Pancras.
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Post by MoreToJack on Jan 26, 2017 15:40:07 GMT
Yes, easiest way is to use the Tube from Liverpool Street to King's Cross via an eastbound Met to Aldgate and back. Position yourself in the third car from the rear leaving Liverpool Street and you'll be best placed to exit at King's Cross.
From King's Cross get back on any SSR train one stop to Euston Square, which has step-free access from the westbound, or head the 10 minutes down Euston Road.
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Post by peterc on Jan 26, 2017 16:21:50 GMT
For general interest the 205 at least gives you something to look at but it isn't the most picturesque route. A 153 from Finsbury Square and change at Angel for any bus down Pentonville Road is an alternative.
For touristic interest I would probably take an 8 or 242 via St Pauls to Ludgate Circus and then a 63 up Farringdon Street.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 26, 2017 16:23:26 GMT
You could always travel via the Circle Line: Liverpool Street, via Aldgate, to Edgware Road, then cross platform interchange for any train to King's Cross. Sadly, something which will not be possible under normal operations from 21 May 2017, when the Circle and District trains will swap operational platforms at Edgware Road; District from pfm.2, Circle from pfm.3.
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Post by londonstuff on Jan 26, 2017 16:26:46 GMT
You could always travel via the Circle Line: Liverpool Street, via Aldgate, to Edgware Road, then cross platform interchange for any train to King's Cross. Sadly, something which will not be possible under normal operations from 21 May 2017, when the Circle and District trains will swap operational platforms at Edgware Road; District from pfm.2, Circle from pfm.3. Wow. What's the operational reason for that? (I'll create a new thread if it generates significant deviation).
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 26, 2017 16:38:42 GMT
Thanks for the contributions so far. We've got the access map, but it doesn't tell you which bits are long walks or street-level changes.
She had originally ruled out the UndergrounD and was going for the bus option. To me I generally avoid busses and the idea of getting one in London with a wheelchair doesn't exactly fill me with glee.
I'm liking the idea of an eastbound SSR train to either Aldgate or Whitechapel then doubling back to Kings Cross. For the last bit I suspect it will depend on the weather as to if we go at street level or UndergrounD.
Thanks for the contributions so far, any more ideas will be gladly received.
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Post by John Tuthill on Jan 26, 2017 16:47:45 GMT
On Friday as part the final phase of my #GrandUKtour I'm meeting a friend at Liverpool St and going to St Pancras for a drink then Euston to catch the Highland sleeper. She is in a wheelchair, so I'd appreciate some advice on the best route to take. We've plenty of time, so any suggestions of the most interesting and/or easiest route are welcomed rather than just the quickest. If you can afford it why not a licenced black cab? They are all now fitted out for wheelchairs.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 26, 2017 18:01:52 GMT
If you can afford it why not a licenced black cab? They are all now fitted out for wheelchairs. This is the emergency backup plan, but as you allude it's expensive.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 28, 2017 12:44:34 GMT
Thanks for the tips guys, we went via Aldgate and all was well.
Unlike the Caledonian Sleeper where the accessible car was the wrong was around so we were combined to the berth all night.
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