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Post by Chris W on Jan 3, 2017 22:39:56 GMT
More than 6 years ago I uploaded and shared my images of a visit to the Island Line to my, now long defunct, Fotopic account. I then mislaid the images of my holiday with Mel that had started at a beer festival on the West Somerset Railway at Minehead and ended on the Isle of Wight. Today I found the files.......  I've looked at the Island Line images initially and have uploaded a photographic study of the line and rolling stock (161 images) from September 2010 to my Flickr account. I hope you like them... and HERE THEY ARE[links directly to the album]More images to come of the Isle of Wight and the West Somerset Railway in the coming week or two.... |
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 3, 2017 23:06:18 GMT
Tomorrow's job for me is finalising my All Line Rover for later this month. Now I need to figure out how to fit in a visit to Shanklin
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Post by Chris W on Jan 4, 2017 18:36:35 GMT
I've been though my other images and have now uploaded photos from September 2010 of: West Somerset Railway & Beer Festival - includes diesel and steam traction, as well as a visit by 60103 TornadoIsle of Wight - includes a visit to Yarmouth, the Needles and Freshwater, the far western end of the former railwayI hope you like them as well... |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 4, 2017 19:14:22 GMT
as well as a visit by 60103 Tornado [/i] [/quote] Great pictures, but if I may venture a quibble, Tornado's number is 60163. 60103 was the number British Railways gave to Flying Scotsman - previously known as 1472, 4472, 502, and 103 |
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Post by class411 on Jan 4, 2017 19:55:19 GMT
I noticed the guard's control panel in a few of the shots.
Do they actually use guards?
Great set of pic's, by the way.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 4, 2017 20:12:49 GMT
IIRC they do, plus a ticket collector when I visited a few years back.
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Post by Chris W on Jan 4, 2017 20:35:49 GMT
as well as a visit by 60103 Tornado Great pictures, but if I may venture a quibble, Tornado's number is 60163. 60103 was the number British Railways gave to Flying Scotsman - previously known as 1472, 4472, 502, and 103 CCCCLLLLLAAANNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG I've amended the tag in the set on Flickr  So what was Tornado's number back in BR days ??!!    |
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Post by spsmiler on Jan 4, 2017 22:03:14 GMT
Ooh thats nice... its great that you found these again.
I must try to find time to get there myself again... not just for the visuals but for the sounds of the trains.
Simon
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 20:24:34 GMT
I've noticed that they have restored Passenger Door Open (PDO) on these trains, complete with yellow surrounds, as they were originally designed with back in 1938! - Some things do come round in circles!
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Post by DWS on Jan 6, 2017 17:03:29 GMT
IIRC they do, plus a ticket collector when I visited a few years back. The last I visited the Guard sold tickets on the 2 car units, may be in the summer a third member of staff on the longer trains ? |
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Post by roythebus on Jan 6, 2017 18:16:00 GMT
Tornado wasn't built in BR days so never had a BR number. It's a product of the post-privatisation era, a new loco, so would never have carried a BR number, though the one it carries 60163 would have been its BR number had it been built pre-1988!
There's a nice video collage on the BBC South news site from a few days ago, remembering 50 years since the end of steam on the island. Which everyone except a select few, myself included, knew that wasn't the case! The IWSR has just had a record season running a record number of days with steam trains in 2016.
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Post by Chris W on Jan 6, 2017 18:46:49 GMT
So what was Tornado's number back in BR days ??!! Tornado wasn't built in BR days so never had a BR number. It's a product of the post-privatisation era, a new loco, so would never have carried a BR number, though the one it carries 60163 would have been its BR number had it been built pre-1988! Sorry Roy... I was messing around... hence the smileys at the end... especially the mischievous priratey one There's a nice video collage on the BBC South news site from a few days ago, remembering 50 years since the end of steam on the island. Which everyone except a select few, myself included, knew that wasn't the case! The IWSR has just had a record season running a record number of days with steam trains in 2016. Thanks for the heads up on that... I'll have a look for it later |
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Post by DWS on Jan 8, 2017 9:42:20 GMT
Has any one got photos of the 1938 stock taken on the I O W in 2016, so that we see the state of the trains compared with Chris W photos taken 2010 ?
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Post by howda62 on Jan 8, 2017 19:03:51 GMT
Has any one got photos of the 1938 stock taken on the I O W in 2016, so that we see the state of the trains compared with Chris W photos taken 2010 ? Not from 2016, but I spent a day on the IoW in August 2015 and took a few photos of the trains and line. The trains do look more weathered than those in Chris's photos, the cars forming Train 007 apparently had rust issues on the roof. Train 006 looked in better shape. Here's a link to some photos: click |
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Post by kateyay on Jan 8, 2017 19:46:16 GMT
 From 2016, at Shanklin. |
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Post by DWS on Jan 8, 2017 23:02:35 GMT
Thanks to those who have posted the above photos.
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Post by christopher125 on Jan 16, 2017 16:24:37 GMT
The trains do look more weathered than those in Chris's photos, the cars forming Train 007 apparently had rust issues on the roof. Train 006 looked in better shape It seems they are going through an overhaul program, 008 was released last year with a new coat of paint (regards to Steve Thorpe for the photo)  483008 by Steve Thorpe, on Flickr |
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Post by howda62 on Jan 16, 2017 20:24:20 GMT
Yes that looks much better than the ones I saw in 2015, thanks for sharing. I wonder how many years they expect the overhaul to keep the trains running.
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Post by Chris M on Jan 17, 2017 0:02:32 GMT
They were, I believe, expecting to be receiving 1973 stock ex-Piccadilly Line in the very near future (if not already), but TfL keep pushing back the date of their withdrawal from LU metals so I don't know what the current state of play is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 20:23:33 GMT
I see a few trees in the background of the picture you sure the wherls could take it  |
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Post by DWS on Jan 18, 2017 18:51:32 GMT
I see a few trees in the background of the picture you sure the wherls could take it The salt water and spay on the Ryde pier does more to rust the trains than falling leaves from the trees |
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Post by Chris W on Jan 18, 2017 20:58:04 GMT
The salt water and spay on the Ryde pier does more to rust the trains than falling leaves from the trees I thought that sea water presented the greatest risk to the longevity of the 38TS.... however I was reliably told first hand that my theory of was completely wrong !! During my visit in 2010 I wondered into down to the depot and asked if I could capture images. I was told I couldn't, however was kindly invited in. I asked if the sea water/spray caused problems and learned that it was rainwater that fell and collected underneath the doorways that presented the greatest challenge with regards to rotting and resulting constant maintenance. |
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Post by DWS on Jan 19, 2017 18:09:04 GMT
The salt water and spay on the Ryde pier does more to rust the trains than falling leaves from the trees I thought that sea water presented the greatest risk to the longevity of the 38TS.... however I was reliably told first hand that my theory of was completely wrong !! During my visit in 2010 I wondered into down to the depot and asked if I could capture images. I was told I couldn't, however was kindly invited in. I asked if the sea water/spray caused problems and learned that it was rainwater that fell and collected underneath the doorways that presented the greatest challenge with regards to rotting and resulting constant maintenance. Must be more rain fall on the Isle of Wight these days, back in the day I remember the Southern Railways Posters etc, The Sunshine Isle |
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Post by Chris W on Jan 19, 2017 22:04:12 GMT
Must be more rain fall on the Isle of Wight these days, back in the day I remember the Southern Railways Posters etc, The Sunshine Isle I spent 3 months of the year at my Nan's in Plymouth every year until I was 14... I promise you that the south of the UK has its fair number of rainy days 😛 |
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 26, 2017 19:30:37 GMT
Just back from the isle today. Unit 7 was looking a bit shabby with 8 much smarter. Two units were sat outside the depot long term out of use, with two more visible inside. One of the ones visible inside appeared to be having its roof repainted.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 23:45:54 GMT
I travelled the entire line on the IOW in 1985. What stock would that have been?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 29, 2017 0:31:56 GMT
The 1938 stock (Class 483) arrived in 1989, replacing the Standard Stock (classes 485, 486) completely by 1992. So in 1985 you would have ridden the Standard Stock.
Standard Stock, despite the name, had many detail differences between the various batches built over a ten year period 1924-1934, notably in the number of doors in the trailer cars. The 44 vehicles that went to the IoW came from a number of different batches.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 1:02:22 GMT
Thanks. I'll have to dig out my photos, I know they had the green metal interiors and I seem to remember reading they were from the Bakerloo.
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Post by DWS on Jan 29, 2017 10:40:56 GMT
Just back from the isle today. Unit 7 was looking a bit shabby with 8 much smarter. Two units were sat outside the depot long term out of use, with two more visible inside. One of the ones visible inside appeared to be having its roof repainted. Some pictures on my Twitter feed: Thanks for the upto date photos of the trains. What does show up in the pics is the poor state of the track , bullhead rail with keys, lots of rusted out of use track etc. The contract for South West trains to run Island Line is due to run out this year ? Also the TOC is responsible for all track work ,signal maintance ,stations etc. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 29, 2017 18:22:02 GMT
Thanks. I'll have to dig out my photos, I know they had the green metal interiors and I seem to remember reading they were from the Bakerloo. I seem to recall reading that the Standard Stock used on the IoW had come from the Piccadilly's fleet, following its replacement by 1959 stock. By 1967 the Bakerloo had not seen Standard stock for nearly thirty years. The 1938 stock on the IoW was ex-Bakerloo though. This is the only colour photo I have found of the interior of Standard stock, although the moquette is very 1970s (similar to that originally used on D78 stock).  EDIT Here's a better one, at the LTM collection  EDIT again This photo is captioned as standard stock on the IoW, although mysteriously, like the first photo, it also seems to be upholstered in 1ate 1970s D78 stock moquette!  |
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