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Post by crusty54 on Apr 16, 2018 18:05:00 GMT
I travelled down to Reading on a 387 yesterday. Should have been non stop but wasn't.
Slow lines were closed virtually all the way. Little progress on platform extensions on the in town sections.
As stated in the LR article no progress on platforms beyond West Drayton.
Yet again Network Rail are lastminute.com. Wholesale changes are needed to get people in place there who understand they are being paid to get projects completed on time and on budget.
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Post by rincew1nd on Apr 16, 2018 19:13:17 GMT
Here's an alternate picture, apologies not the best quality - taken from my northbound train having been taken by surprise when it (the 345) appeared outside the window!
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Post by goldenarrow on Apr 17, 2018 8:09:10 GMT
Three consecutive Sunday late starts (until 07:00) to the TFL Rail (West) service have been listed for the 16th, 23rd and 30th Sept. Interestingly it will only affect the service between Paddington and Heathrow 2&3 leaving a shuttle service to T4.
Could this be a trial of a 345 shuttling in the tunnels initially or is it NR works related?
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Post by snoggle on Apr 17, 2018 11:03:51 GMT
Three consecutive Sunday late starts (until 07:00) to the TFL Rail (West) service have been listed for the 16th, 23rd and 30th Sept. Interestingly it will only affect the service between Paddington and Heathrow 2&3 leaving a shuttle service to T4. Could this be a trial of a 345 shuttling in the tunnels initially or is it NR works related? My guess is possibly an extended possession each Sat night / Sun morning to allow an attempt at running several class 345s into / out of the tunnel to simulate the planned service frequency. TfL's statements have been along the lines of the 15 min service into Heathrow being introduced "in the Autumn" so proving runs and gathering of test results would be a key step to seeking formal sign off for use of the 345s under ETCS in the tunnel.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 15:10:47 GMT
Saw my first ever crossrail train passing by just east of Langley
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 24, 2018 18:22:38 GMT
I was on 345003 today and noticed that there are signs on the doors saying that the doors may not open at some station in car 7, what stations will not allow car 7 to open its doors?
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Post by silenthunter on Apr 24, 2018 20:54:09 GMT
I was on 345003 today and noticed that there are signs on the doors saying that the doors may not open at some station in car 7, what stations will not allow car 7 to open its doors? I think maybe Forest Gate, but don't quote me on that.
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 25, 2018 6:50:43 GMT
I was on 345003 today and noticed that there are signs on the doors saying that the doors may not open at some station in car 7, what stations will not allow car 7 to open its doors? I think maybe Forest Gate, but don't quote me on that. I thought that Forest Gate was going to be able to take the full 9 cars?
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Post by superteacher on Apr 25, 2018 6:54:13 GMT
I think maybe Forest Gate, but don't quote me on that. I thought that Forest Gate was going to be able to take the full 9 cars? Maybe it’s just temporarily?
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Post by crusty54 on Apr 25, 2018 7:12:51 GMT
I thought that Forest Gate was going to be able to take the full 9 cars? Maybe it’s just temporarily? Not sure if the lifts are being commissioned. Will be 9 cars capable in the end. Only know of Maryland that won't. Bridges and curves at either end make it impossible to extend the platforms.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 25, 2018 9:00:30 GMT
Aren't there some platforms at the western end of the line that won't take 9 cars? I seem to recall reading there was an issue with the bay at Hayes & Harlington. Maybe also some of the platforms on the fast lines on both the GEML and GWML which would be used if the slows are closed for engineering work.
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Post by goldenarrow on Apr 25, 2018 16:09:51 GMT
There are no planned platform extensions for Hanwell which I think can't even take an eight car 378 let alone the 345's.
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Post by crusty54 on Apr 25, 2018 17:26:32 GMT
Aren't there some platforms at the western end of the line that won't take 9 cars? I seem to recall reading there was an issue with the bay at Hayes & Harlington. Maybe also some of the platforms on the fast lines on both the GEML and GWML which would be used if the slows are closed for engineering work. My previous comment was about the east side. Hanwell is a listed station with a very uneven platform length. It will gain lifts. As stated higher up the thread there was little evidence of platform works west of West Drayton a couple of weeks ago. They've got until December next year. Where extensions are planned/completed all platforms will take the 9 car train (with selective door opening where necessary)
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Post by silenthunter on Apr 25, 2018 17:37:38 GMT
Maybe it’s just temporarily? Not sure if the lifts are being commissioned. Will be 9 cars capable in the end. Only know of Maryland that won't. Bridges and curves at either end make it impossible to extend the platforms. I thought it was one of the inner city stations, yes.
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 25, 2018 19:06:24 GMT
I should probably point out that car 7 isn't the last car, it's two in from the end to save the cars having to be renumbered when the two extra cars are added in the middle so these signs would suggest that the final three cars would be off the platform.
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Post by crusty54 on Apr 25, 2018 19:48:45 GMT
I should probably point out that car 7 isn't the last car, it's two in from the end to save the cars having to be renumbered when the two extra cars are added in the middle so these signs would suggest that the final three cars would be off the platform. From memory they are cards in the advert panels so easily removed. The car in question has a cab so it is the last/first car at present in 7 car formation. There are indicators which light up by the doors when they are cut out.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 25, 2018 19:54:11 GMT
Certainly on Thameslink, although there are gaps in the painted-on vehicle numbers in the eight car class 700 sets (numbered 401xxx,402xxx,403xxx,406xxx,407xxx, 410xxx,411xxx, 412xxx) , the "available seats" indicators refer to them as cars 1 to 8, not cars 1,2,3,6,7,10,11,12
EDITED FOR CLARITY
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 25, 2018 21:00:24 GMT
I should probably point out that car 7 isn't the last car, it's two in from the end to save the cars having to be renumbered when the two extra cars are added in the middle so these signs would suggest that the final three cars would be off the platform. From memory they are cards in the advert panels so easily removed. The car in question has a cab so it is the last/first car at present in 7 car formation. There are indicators which light up by the doors when they are cut out. Car 7 does not have a cab and no they are stickers on the doors. I'll try and get a photo if I see it again, I don't think this is the case on all trains.
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Post by crusty54 on Apr 26, 2018 1:17:23 GMT
From memory they are cards in the advert panels so easily removed. The car in question has a cab so it is the last/first car at present in 7 car formation. There are indicators which light up by the doors when they are cut out. Car 7 does not have a cab and no they are stickers on the doors. I'll try and get a photo if I see it again, I don't think this is the case on all trains. It's got nothing to do with car numbering, he was travelling in the last car of the train.
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 26, 2018 6:49:17 GMT
Car 7 does not have a cab and no they are stickers on the doors. I'll try and get a photo if I see it again, I don't think this is the case on all trains. It's got nothing to do with car numbering, he was travelling in the last car of the train. Perhaps we're taking about a different post.
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Post by scheduler on Apr 30, 2018 22:43:22 GMT
Why is there a new TfL Rail train hanging around Stonebridge Park / South Wembley sidings?
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Post by domh245 on Apr 30, 2018 23:09:33 GMT
As I understand it, Wembley Yard (or to give it it's proper title, European Freight Operating Centre) is used as a sort of staging post during deliveries. They run from Old Dalby to Wembley (via Bedford and Bletchley), and then from Wembley to Ilford, Old Oak Common, or wherever else it is that the unit is needed.
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Post by Deep Level on May 1, 2018 19:07:27 GMT
Travelled on 345008 again this morning and the signs on the doors seem to be in car 7 and 8 (by that im going to assume that they're in car 9 as well), still too busy to get a photo but they said something along the lines of "this door may not open at some station, please check the displays for information".
I'm currently on 345001 in car 8 which doesn't have these stickers on the door so it's a mystery, I really can't imagine that any station will only take 6 of the 9 cars.
I haven't actually checked if these stickers continue down the train.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 19:34:03 GMT
Travelled on 345008 again this morning and the signs on the doors seem to be in car 7 and 8 (by that im going to assume that they're in car 9 as well), still too busy to get a photo but they said something along the lines of "this door may not open at some station, please check the displays for information". I'm currently on 345001 in car 8 which doesn't have these stickers on the door so it's a mystery, I really can't imagine that any station will only take 6 of the 9 cars. I haven't actually checked if these stickers continue down the train. I know that at Paddington High Level due to the curvature of the platforms at the Country End, the middle door on the first 4 cars will not be operational as there is a significantly large gap between the train and platform.
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Post by andypurk on May 2, 2018 23:02:32 GMT
As I understand it, Wembley Yard (or to give it it's proper title, European Freight Operating Centre) is used as a sort of staging post during deliveries. They run from Old Dalby to Wembley (via Bedford and Bletchley), and then from Wembley to Ilford, Old Oak Common, or wherever else it is that the unit is needed. There has also been a unit stored in the London Overground Wembley C Sidings for several weeks. These are the sidings that are further away from the main line, with access alongside the road to the Alstom Pendolino depot.
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Post by Deep Level on May 3, 2018 6:18:39 GMT
Travelled on 345008 again this morning and the signs on the doors seem to be in car 7 and 8 (by that im going to assume that they're in car 9 as well), still too busy to get a photo but they said something along the lines of "this door may not open at some station, please check the displays for information". I'm currently on 345001 in car 8 which doesn't have these stickers on the door so it's a mystery, I really can't imagine that any station will only take 6 of the 9 cars. I haven't actually checked if these stickers continue down the train. I know that at Paddington High Level due to the curvature of the platforms at the Country End, the middle door on the first 4 cars will not be operational as there is a significantly large gap between the train and platform. If that train is going over west then that could explain it. Was on a different train yesterday evening (can't remember which) and that one only had the sign on the last two sets of doors as you would expect.
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Post by goldenarrow on May 9, 2018 11:07:45 GMT
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on May 9, 2018 11:22:39 GMT
Is it just me or does the line map look odd with West on the right and East on the left?
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Post by silenthunter on May 9, 2018 11:27:20 GMT
Every 30 minutes from Paddington to Heathrow? Is that frequency going to increase once full operation starts?
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Post by goldenarrow on May 9, 2018 11:29:36 GMT
Is it just me or does the line map look odd with West on the right and East on the left? I agree, I guess our brains have gotten used to the western arm of the London Rail map so seeing it inverted like this does look out of place. The CLD's however do follow the accustomed West-Left, East-Right format.
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