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Post by Chris M on Feb 6, 2018 20:32:21 GMT
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Post by 315 on Feb 7, 2018 7:39:23 GMT
You're right apart from that 9 car Class 345's do not fit into Hayes & Harlington (Bay platform). As a result, a number of 7 car 345's that were due to be delivered to the East are now going West to cover the half hourly service from 21st May. Wasn't Network Rail supposed to complete pt.2 of the bay platform extension at H&H for April this year? Or has that date gone out the window too? Unless it was due to be extended again, it was completed last year to accommodate the 8 car Class 387's for GWR. I From 21st May this year the following services will operate under the TFL Rail banner: 2 tph Pad - Heathrow using Class 360/2 2 tph Pad - H & H (bay platform) using 7 car Class 345 2 tph Heathrow T2 & 3 - Terminal 4 using Class 360/2 |
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Post by Deep Level on Feb 7, 2018 8:33:38 GMT
Wasn't Network Rail supposed to complete pt.2 of the bay platform extension at H&H for April this year? Or has that date gone out the window too? Unless it was due to be extended again, it was completed last year to accommodate the 8 car Class 387's for GWR. I From 21st May this year the following services will operate under the TFL Rail banner: 2 tph Pad - Heathrow using Class 360/2 2 tph Pad - H & H (bay platform) using 7 car Class 345 2 tph Heathrow T2 & 3 - Terminal 4 using Class 360/2 Just to confirm, are the 2tph from Paddington to Heathrow also going through to T4? |
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Post by 315 on Feb 7, 2018 8:37:07 GMT
Unless it was due to be extended again, it was completed last year to accommodate the 8 car Class 387's for GWR. I From 21st May this year the following services will operate under the TFL Rail banner: 2 tph Pad - Heathrow using Class 360/2 2 tph Pad - H & H (bay platform) using 7 car Class 345 2 tph Heathrow T2 & 3 - Terminal 4 using Class 360/2 Just to confirm, are the 2tph from Paddington to Heathrow also going through to T4? Yes that is correct |
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Post by roythebus on Feb 8, 2018 0:08:27 GMT
There was a 345 stabled in Shenfield platform 6 over the weekend during the engineering blockade. I've got a nice night picture of it but don't know how to share pictures on here.
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Feb 8, 2018 7:03:03 GMT
There was a 345 stabled in Shenfield platform 6 over the weekend during the engineering blockade. I've got a nice night picture of it but don't know how to share pictures on here. There are various ways, mostly involving third party hosts like Flickr or Imgur and then pasting the generated picture code into the text using the 'insert image' button above or you can use the mobile App 'Tapatalk' to read and post on this forum. That has the facility to be able to host pictures whilst making the process of embedding them here quite simple. Sadly, I don't believe you can use Tapatalk from a PC or Mac. |
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Post by Chris M on Feb 8, 2018 9:37:22 GMT
There used to be a good tutorial about inserting images, but it would appear to have gone walkabouts since I last looked.
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Feb 8, 2018 9:51:28 GMT
There used to be a good tutorial about inserting images, but it would appear to have gone walkabouts since I last looked. It's still about but behind locked doors Chris as it dealt with Photobucket and as many of us will know, that didn't end up very well at all. I assume it was thought best to remove it from general forum view to avoid confusing anybody. I'm rather busy for the next week or so or else I'd knock something up as a new tutorial. If anybody else would like to have a go with one of the other 3rd party hosts (like Flickr) I'm sure it'd be well recieved!  Edit: In the meantime, this tutorial from YouTube is fairly easy to follow: |
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Post by roythebus on Feb 8, 2018 10:22:24 GMT
All too technical for me, I can't follow youtube tutorials, I have the attention span of a goldfish. On bookface I can copy straight across from my pictures on the computer. I don't know how to use an app. It's what happens when you get over 65.  If I can't hit it with a hammer to fix it, I'm not interested.  Good job I'm not driving trains anymore, I'd be lot with all this techy stuff. Is it possible to copy a FB link to here to make it work? |
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Feb 8, 2018 11:45:08 GMT
All too technical for me, I can't follow youtube tutorials, I have the attention span of a goldfish. On bookface I can copy straight across from my pictures on the computer. I don't know how to use an app. It's what happens when you get over 65. If I can't hit it with a hammer to fix it, I'm not interested. Good job I'm not driving trains anymore, I'd be lot with all this techy stuff. Is it possible to copy a FB link to here to make it work? Facebook don't allow their hosted images to be embedded elsewhere Roy aside from on other Facebook pages. There is one other way I can think of to do this but it's a bit more complicated than Flickr so perhaps it's not worth trying to explain!  You could of course email me the picture and I'll post it on your behalf. If you look at my profile, the email address is there. |
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Post by Chris W on Feb 8, 2018 13:04:30 GMT
I'm rather busy for the next week or so or else I'd knock something up as a new tutorial. If anybody else would like to have a go with one of the other 3rd party hosts (like Flickr) I'm sure it'd be well recieved This is from a very similar questions that one member [ rdm] asked me this week: Hi Chris, I've been trying to follow the instructions so as to add a picture from my Flickr photostream but although the url appears on my draft, when I hit Preview it does not display. What might I be doing incorrectly, please? Thanks, Russell (rdm) Hello Russell In Flickr, open the image Click on the SHARE icon below Click on the BBCode tab Select your image size (800*534 is perfik) Click and copy the code that appears above Paste into your post It works... promise - see below   IMG_9354 by Chris Westcott, on Flickr Hope that helps before Wk2k finds some time |
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Post by 315 on Feb 8, 2018 13:39:23 GMT
If things go to plan, when TfL Rail take over the Heathrow Connect service between Paddington and Heathrow T's 1,2,3 & 4 on May 20th this year the line will operate with nine car class 345's from this date. However, contingency plans are in place to use the existing class 360 fleet if the 345's cannot be made ready for service in time for the handover date. The recent Crossrail transition update described the contingency plan as follows. - class 360s every 30 mins Paddington to Heathrow - class 345s (9 cars) every 30 mins Paddington to Hayes and Harlington Therefore TfL will run the planned x15 service Hayes and eastwards but the Heathrow service sees no improvement. Being the cynic that I am I suspect we will see the contingency plan in use for a number of months. I just think they have run out of time to be able to establish reliable ETMS operation with class 345s into Heathrow. Crossrail themselves have given a pretty broad hint in that direction so I'm saying anyting particularly new. Given the train software is not stable yet there is not a reliable rolling stock "platform" to integrate the signalling interface with. This problem is also a huge risk with the operation of the core where CBTC has to be able to work reliably with the rolling stock. I imagine a lot of people are having a fraught time trying to get all this to work. The bay platform is to be extended yet again to allow 9 car 345's to use it, however it will not be completed in time for May. |
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Post by alholmes on Feb 8, 2018 14:09:32 GMT
Very interesting article on the London Reconnections site today, which covers contingency plans for the Heathrow / Hayes & Harlington issues.
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Post by goldenarrow on Feb 20, 2018 9:23:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 8:57:12 GMT
In the early hours of this morning the class 345 (345 021) ran under its own power in the Central Operating Section for the first time. It ran between Abbey Wood and Connaught Tunnel. During this week it should make it as far as Stepney Green Junction.
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Post by jetblast787 on Feb 26, 2018 9:42:11 GMT
Any idea when we can see entries in realtimetrains relating to these movements?
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Post by Chris M on Feb 26, 2018 10:07:05 GMT
I would imagine not until much closer to the launch date. Movements on Crosssrail (similarly to those in an engineering worksite) are unlikely to be in the datafeed from NR that realtime trains is sourced from.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 16:07:50 GMT
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Post by flippyff on Mar 2, 2018 7:50:51 GMT
I note that RTT shows the platforms all as either A or B, is the public 'name' or just for use during testing? For example I would have thought that Whitechapel would be platforms 5 & 6?
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Post by mcmaddog on Mar 2, 2018 8:46:27 GMT
I note that RTT shows the platforms all as either A or B, is the public 'name' or just for use during testing? For example I would have thought that Whitechapel would be platforms 5 & 6? Simon I think the Overground are 5&6, presumably from when there were 4 above but your point remains, 7&8 makes sense |
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Post by su31 on Mar 2, 2018 16:41:40 GMT
It would appear that the platforms will be lettered rather than numbered. I’ve seen a photo on Flickr of the eastbound platform at Tottenham Court Road with a sign pointing to Westbound platform B. flic.kr/p/E9i5JF |
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Post by goldenarrow on Mar 2, 2018 17:10:13 GMT
Realtime trains has also lettered platforms on the Crossrail core. I'm guessing this would aid the identification of the Crossrail platforms that straddle two tube stations or those such as Paddington which are faux interchanges.
On a separate note, during the Canary Wharf open day, I got to have a very interesting chat with Chris Binns (Chief Engineer). I raised the TfL Rail to Heathrow/Hayes & Harlington issues in which he stated, "that come May 20th that we (TfL Rail) will most likely now use most of the existing fleet of trains for 2tph to Heathrow on ETCS (European Train Control System) and 2tph nine car 345's to Hayes & Harlington (bay platform) which we expect should be completed in time regardless of whether the full length of it will be used come May.
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Post by silenthunter on Mar 2, 2018 22:34:23 GMT
Realtime trains has also lettered platforms on the Crossrail core. I'm guessing this would aid the identification of the Crossrail platforms that straddle two tube stations or those such as Paddington which are faux interchanges. On a separate note, during the Canary Wharf open day, I got to have a very interesting chat with Chris Binns (Chief Engineer). I raised the TfL Rail to Heathrow/Hayes & Harlington issues in which he stated, "that come May 20th that we (TfL Rail) will most likely now use most of the existing fleet of trains for 2tph to Heathrow on ETCS (European Train Control System) and 2tph nine car 345's to Hayes & Harlington (bay platform) which we expect should be completed in time regardless of whether the full length of it will be used come May. You have that at St Pancras for the Thameslink platforms (and at Kings Cross Thameslink before that). |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 3, 2018 7:26:35 GMT
Realtime trains has also lettered platforms on the Crossrail core. I'm guessing this would aid the identification of the Crossrail platforms that straddle two tube stations or those such as Paddington which are faux interchanges. You have that at St Pancras for the Thameslink platforms (and at Kings Cross Thameslink before that). Also at Waterloo East and New Cross, again to avoid confusion (particularly for the emergency services). However, Tube and NR platform numbering is duplicated at most stations, but in general the Tube ones are known by their direction rather than their numbers. |
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Post by su31 on Mar 3, 2018 14:21:39 GMT
At Kentish Town, we have confusing numbers: Platform 1 Northbound Northern line; Platform 2 Southbound Northern line; Platform 1 Southbound Thameslink and Platform 2 Northbound Thameslink!
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Post by superteacher on Mar 3, 2018 15:18:39 GMT
As mentioned earlier, there are many examples of inconsistent platform numbering (or even lettering), but a separate thread is the best place if people want to discuss that. Back on topic please.
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Post by silenthunter on Mar 3, 2018 20:43:33 GMT
The 345s do look very distinctive on the GEML as the only thing without a yellow front.
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Post by superteacher on Mar 7, 2018 21:34:49 GMT
345 use seems to have increased on TFL Rail. About half the service now runnnig with them. Hopefully they are starting to settle down a bit now.
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Post by Chris W on Mar 7, 2018 22:08:57 GMT
345 use seems to have increased on TFL Rail. About half the service now runnnig with them. Hopefully they are starting to settle down a bit now. I'd concur with that.... 005-017 seem to have graced us with their presence... The issue is that during the am peak, even at Brentwood (7:45am) towards the front it's standing room only.... and that's the first station.... then there's Harold Wood, Gidea Park, Romford, Chadwell Heath, Goodmayes, Seven Kings... Ilford.... 3 more stations... Stratford..... It took me 4 trains before I could board a train westwards (Central Line) at Stratford... the massive annoyance is that some commuting characters think that it's acceptable to push in front from the sides adjacent to doorways, instead of taking their turn... I know that class 345 Crossrail trains are only currently 7 cars in length and that they will become 9 car trains in time... but already they are packed to the seams... Having travelled on the Central Line from Oxford Circus to Liverpool Street late this afternoon (5:00-5:30pm), there were times when I was concerned with regards the numbers of passengers on the platforms and also the train I was travelling on... Crossrail cannot come soon enough...!! |
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If I can't hit it with a hammer to fix it, I'm not interested. 
Good job I'm not driving trains anymore, I'd be lot with all this techy stuff.
You could of course email me the picture and I'll post it on your behalf. If you look at my profile, the email address is there. 
