Annoying habits of 'tubers'

I'll agree to that.

I remember over hearing a conversation on a D78 where a man got on a District Line service somewhere up east and group of Chavs got on at the next and started pulling the armrests out of the seats and using them as weapons.

IIRC it was behaviour like this which got the armrests on the Bakerloo 72TS removed. (Can anybody imagine a D78 with no armrests? )

Another thing that annoys me about the passengers customers that use LUL is their walking pace.

Some of them walk up stairs and though the station hallways at a snails pace causing blockades in the passages behind them.



It would be interesting to see some of these people running for their lives, they can't pick up their pace on the tube, well lets see them try and run from a great big Bear or Lion chasing them. ;D ;D ;D

Why would anyone "cover" for a person doing a safety critical job so recklessly.

Shameful.

f**king shameful.

I'm sure Q8 would agree - you have to take this story in the context of the 1960's, when 'safety critical' wasn't invented. Though well before I was even thought of by my parents, i've heard many, many stories of goings on in the 60's 70's and early 80's, that in todays world would result in 75% of LUL's workforce being sacked on the spot every day.

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Thank you Colin and you are correct. I have seen things done on the underground that would make a modern days manager or safety rep hair go white or give them a heart attack.

A lot of things then were done with the FULL KNOWLEDGE of management as it made the railway run better AND more efficiently than today. It was only when things went cockeyed that trouble started.

As for "covering" well in those days everybody else on the tube was a "Mate" and someone to be respected and helped when in bother. A bit like the army squaddies really. None of this I'm-all-right-Jack of today.

I don't think they actually felt bad to feel better. And why shouldn't they take pride in their job? They did it and did it well.

There are some people who made efforts to do the job properly, took a pride in doing so and refused to accept poor workiing. For some of those people life was made uncomfortable so that they left and others were sacked.

The culture has since changed so that we now have a major delays and passengers suffering when minor problems arise.

Neither situation is healthy and attempting to berate people for working within the culture prevailing several decades ago is pointless.

If posters wish to start slating other people please go to uk.transport.london where afficiandos of the sport will be found.

Don't tell me there isn't a single current employee on this forum who hasn't covered for a workmate at some time. The degree might be different from Q8 in the sixties but once you establish the principle that you have done it, the severity is all down to niceties.

Whilst not wanting to dwell on the issue I'd thought that after closing the doors a further check from the platform wall would be in order.

Indeed one could, but then there'd be people whinging about the delay and what's more even stood by the wall one still can't see the front of the platform. This is where good station staff are worth their weight.

I did once hear a story of a Guard who was given a rollocking for closing the doors as passengers were running for the train. Thereafter he complied with the instruction until one evening peak he was at Green Park for twenty minutes.

The delay has probably been over egged with each telling, but I'm quite prepared to believe that he was there for an extended period because, again, I've been in the situation of having people get upset when I've closed the doors in their face.

Whilst trying to understand you point of view and the points you raise I'm sure the victim isn't laughing at it.

But to use a few phrases from Blair and the Irqa war. Let's "move on", "draw a line under it" etc. etc.

Let's hope those Iraqis are laughing in 30+ years!

In the last post I am not condoning any 'corner cutting' of working practice - If getting a train away from a station takes 10 minutes or 10 seconds it is justifiable if no -one is injured or killed when they may have been. I am just saying I look out for me - and that's a bit of risk taken away.