Jubilee Line Interior Upgrade

so why not send some spare trains from northen to jubbiee for temporary running

- Too short (only six cars)
- Incompatible signalling systems
- Transfer would involve a long odyssey by way of the Kings Cross loop, Picadilly Line, and Rayners Lane.
- The Northern Line needs them now the upgrade timetable is in place

The second one is probably the showstopper

If nothing else a slow refurbishment programme is better than nothing. One can hope that behind the scenes someone will be reviewing the fleet operational and quality statistics to make sure that priority is given to those trains (cars) which are most in need of attention. After a few recent trips on the line it was obvious that the internal condition of some cars were far better condition than others.

I recall that someone on the forum posted a link to a Tfl paper - back in February? - where they outlined the case/process to issue an ITT for up to 17 extra trains for use on the Jubilee (increased frequency) and Northern (Battersea service requirement). At the time I noted how the paper indicated that decisions would be made in the Autumn (so not far off) and warned that they would also need to take into account any policy changes following a capital programme review.

I guess a pause or delay in the ITT may not be entirely surprising given the enormous recent investment made in the sub surface stock. However if the extra rolling stock order is deferred/cancelled then presumably the Jubilee stock will end up needing several more important overhauls before they are eventually replaced. The worrying outcome could be that any saving on capital spend could be more than offset by increased operating costs just to keep the fleet safe let alone attractive. Obviously if the extra 10 Jubilee trains are ordered, it should provide the line management with greater flexibility and probably allow subsequent overhauls to be completed in less time.

No work below solebar level?

Not necessarily - the official artists impressions circulated internally showed grey grab-poles.

Whether this will make it through the finished product remains to be seen.

I hope they improve the 'ironing board' seating .....

It only mentions the interior doesn't state any mechanical work to be done

Someone has some ideas about the trains? There are still in refurbish stage? I didn't hear anyone speaking about units and process/ level of refurbish. 

Actually both informations are useful.

The first train has come out of the tent and should be in service now

Out on T340 if anyone goes looking.

Looks nicer than I imagined it would upon reading in the first post that the bars were going to be grey.

This isn't out today, just in case anyone goes hunting.